$4 NLHE 6-max: A few interesting hands from last night

Just a few hands I'd like to share, off the back of an excellent session last night.

Firstly this one. As I was deep stacked and the villian 3bet me from the BB (he's a pretty decent reg) I didn't fancy 4betting him for him to shove over the top with 150 BB's with AA or AK so elected to call. Too often recently I have lost money whilst being deep so was trying to avoid that. I was quite happy how the hand played out and how little money I lost. Also he could've called my 4bet and hit the A on the flop then I'd be losing more money possibly.

On Game No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (6 handed) - On Game Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Villian (BB) ($6.09) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 12, 3B: 7, AF: 1.7, Hands: 477
Hero (BTN) ($11.25) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 2.7, Hands: 39001

Preflop: Hero is Button with
,
3 folds, Hero bets $0.12, 1 fold, Villian raises $0.38, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.86)
, , (2 players)
Villian bets $0.62, Hero calls $0.62

Turn: ($2.10)
(2 players)
Villian checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.10)
(2 players)
Villian checks, Hero checks
Total pot: $2.10
Results below: This hand I had position on a nit and didn't want to 3bet and make him fold so chose to call. I raised his flop c-bet, he thought for a while and shoved all-in. Thought I had him so called but I'm always aware he could be doing this with a set. Either winning a large pot or losing a large pot taking this line preflop. I think it was ok vs a nit but wouldn't take that line vs looser players.

On Game No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (6 handed) - On Game Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Villian (CO) ($4.67) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 7, AF: 2.1, Hands: 321
Hero (BTN) ($7.27) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 2.7, Hands: 39001

Preflop: Hero is Button with
,
2 folds, Villian bets $0.16, Hero calls $0.16, 1 fold, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.50)
, , (3 players)
BB checks, Villian bets $0.38, Hero raises $0.76, 1 fold, Villian raises $4.13 (All-In), Hero calls $3.75

Turn: ($9.52)
(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($9.52)
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $9.52
Results below: Well this one speaks for it's self really, it was fist pump time for sure with 2 other fishy players in the pot. The turn came and I made a large raise to take the pot there and then however both players shoved and I held my breath until the river whilst praying the flush didn't come!

On Game No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (6 handed) - On Game Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Villian1 (BB) ($4.18) - VPIP: 34, PFR: 21, 3B: 21, AF: 1.2, Hands: 134
Villian2 (UTG) ($4.20) - VPIP: 50, PFR: 50, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 2
Hero (BTN) ($4.48) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 2.7, Hands: 39001

Preflop: Hero is Button with
,
Villian2 bets $0.08, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.08, 1 fold, Villian1 calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.26)
, , (3 players)
Villian1 checks, Villian2 bets $0.06, Hero raises $0.18, Villian1 calls $0.18, Villian2 calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.80)
(3 players)
Villian1 bets $0.60, Villian2 calls $0.60, Hero raises $2.50, Villian1 raises $3.32 (All-In), Villian2 raises $3.34 (All-In), Hero calls $1.44

River: ($12.60)
(3 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $12.60
Results below: And this was from a quick session I had this morning. Another fishy player, I'd been aggressive against this player in the last couple of hands and he couldn't get me to showdown. I raise his donk bet on the flop, wanting him to put me on a semi-bluff because of my last few aggressive hands. The flush draw fell on the turn and I overbet the pot trying to over represent it and he shoves all-in. Didn't think he had the flush and was correct when he flipped over two pair.

On Game No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (5 handed) - On Game Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Villian (UTG) ($4.08) - VPIP: 48, PFR: 18, 3B: 0, AF: 0.6, Hands: 67
Hero (SB) ($6.49) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 2.7, Hands: 39001

Preflop: Hero is SB with
,
Villian bets $0.12, 1 fold, Button calls $0.12, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.40)
, , (3 players)
Hero checks, Villian bets $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises $0.60, Villian calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.60)
(2 players)
Hero bets $2, Villian raises $3.36 (All-In), Hero calls $1.36

River: ($8.32)
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $8.32
Results below:

Hand 1 - i probs bet the river for value
Hand 2 - def 3 bet pre?
Hand 3 - nh wp
Hand 4 - dont x/min raise. Make it .90 on the flop and then lead for 60% on the turn when the club comes off. If he jams then snap call.

Stop slowplaying K/K and A/A pre-flop, it's so bad at these stakes. Just 3/4/5 bet them until u get all in. If you're against a nit then he has a better hand than normal players would so u should be 3 betting nits most often.

1- idk how often he donks, but in some cases I may make a raise on the flop. And in your hand I bet turn, but depends on how often your opponent donk bets flop.
2- you just can never call like that. 3bet 100%.
3- Raise more on the flop look at the pot and its multiway with a lot of draws.
4- I would be raising on the flop more and I prefer checking n calling turn.
But thats just how I play

I hear you and understand what you're saying. My usual play is to 3bet/4bet with KK, AA. It just so happened I didn't with these two hands.

I guess the first hand I was looking for a reply concerning playing deep vs someone else who is quite deep because I seem to keep giving away large pots whilst being deep, hence the call with KK. I didn't want the pot getting too large and end up spewing off loads of chips.

The AA I would normally 3bet and can see that is the preffered play most the time but can we not deviate from that on rare occasions? I just recently read a book, where the author was telling his students to sometimes flat raises pre-flop with AA, KK which is another reason I took this line.

I totally appreciate your advice and think it is very good but surely there's room to deviate from the standard play on occasions?

tim132 said:

I hear you and understand what you're saying. My usual play is to 3bet/4bet with KK, AA. It just so happened I didn't with these two hands.

I guess the first hand I was looking for a reply concerning playing deep vs someone else who is quite deep because I seem to keep giving away large pots whilst being deep, hence the call with KK. I didn't want the pot getting too large and end up spewing off loads of chips.

The AA I would normally 3bet and can see that is the preffered play most the time but can we not deviate from that on rare occasions? I just recently read a book, where the author was telling his students to sometimes flat raises pre-flop with AA, KK which is another reason I took this line.

I totally appreciate your advice and think it is very good but surely there's room to deviate from the standard play on occasions?

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Yeah definitely there is but 4NL is not the place. Whats the book youre reading? I suspect its not directed towards microstakes players.

KK - the effective stack size is 150bbs which is deepish but this is a fist pump GII pre still espc cause its HU. After the flop, its probably fine but I would probs bet the turn if he checks it back then check back the river.

Yeah you're right, it's Bill Vosti's 6-max and TBH it is geared more towards high stakes. I need to be aware I'm still playing at the lower levels and try to think more straight forward.

I hear you on the KK GII fist pump, I guess if I shove he would've folded there.

tim132 said:

I guess the first hand I was looking for a reply concerning playing deep vs someone else who is quite deep because I seem to keep giving away large pots whilst being deep, hence the call with KK.

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That is what we want! Large stack all-in vs large stack all-in=verryyy large stack

I would be fist pumping all the way to the bank seeing another deep stack come into the hand there.

As you said and are probably realizing more now is that micros are straight forward. Bet made hands, fold junk. If you have a good hand and they bet, raise. If you have a good hand and your OOP, bet. If you have a good hand and they raise, reraise! If you have a bad hand and they check, check. If you have a bad hand and they bet, fold. That's really about it. No trapping or fancy play necessary really unless its vs a reg with a lot of history maybe.

Edit: And no to your last comment, he probably wouldn't have folded. Because it's the micros and all lol. But ya still gotta GII there. If he has ya beat, he has ya beat. But we can never just call KK or AA. Otherwise every hand is marginal to us if we can't even trust KK or AA to hold up. And as Yoshi said, if a nit is in, chances are he has something nice and is willing to put money in.

Blobweird123 said:

That is what we want! Large stack all-in vs large stack all-in=verryyy large stack

I would be fist pumping all the way to the bank seeing another deep stack come into the hand there.

As you said and are probably realizing more now is that micros are straight forward. Bet made hands, fold junk. If you have a good hand and they bet, raise. If you have a good hand and your OOP, bet. If you have a good hand and they raise, reraise! If you have a bad hand and they check, check. If you have a bad hand and they bet, fold. That's really about it. No trapping or fancy play necessary really unless its vs a reg with a lot of history maybe.

Edit: And no to your last comment, he probably wouldn't have folded. Because it's the micros and all lol. But ya still gotta GII there. If he has ya beat, he has ya beat. But we can never just call KK or AA. Otherwise every hand is marginal to us if we can't even trust KK or AA to hold up. And as Yoshi said, if a nit is in, chances are he has something nice and is willing to put money in.

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I don't like calling raises preflop with aces and kings. I like to get as much money in as I can preflop with those hands.