$4 NLHE 6-max: 10 10 on the button in 3bet pot

JOEBOB69

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Just a few hands on villain so no reads.

CO: $3.12
Hero (BTN): $4.77
SB: $4.32
BB: $4.43
UTG: $4.74
MP: $11.08

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BTN with T :spade: T :heart:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.38, Hero calls $0.26

Flop: ($0.78) 5 :heart: 3 :spade: 7 :diamond: (2 players)
BB bets $0.43 Hero???

Ok I'm not sure if this is a call\fold\4bet pre with a unknown or not to start with.Given i flated the 3bet i see no way this is a fold on a under card board.Should i call here and reevaluate on the turn,or R\F or R\call if he shoves the flop?
 
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Thats the problem with calling 3bets with 10s against an unknown, unless you hit a set you are always in a tough spot. Think you should see the turn though or there wasn't much point calling pf. Most hands that beat you will likely double barrel and those that don't... might not... lol
 
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I'd rather 4-bet or fold (leaning towards folding), since a ton of flops have over cards.

If you're going to flat his 3-bet, I'm shipping this flop.
 
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as said the main issue here is you calling 3bets with no reads or stats on villain I would've just folded pre since against an unkown i have no clue what to do post flop with this hand vs an unknown your just gambling here lol,
if I seen him play 4 hands ridonkulous I know I can call 10's, which is still a gamble since he might only 3 bet aces and kings *hwoever this play would be player read dependant* to his 3bet as played if you call this bet (which is the main problem however) on this board a call down might not be to bad but if the turns clear i'll probably re raise there.
 
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Ok i called the flop bet to reevaluate the turn.When he checks i think i narrowed his range to aj+ is this correct?What should i do on this turn?

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CO: $3.12
Hero (BTN): $4.77
SB: $4.32
BB: $4.43
UTG: $4.74
MP: $11.08

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BTN with T :spade: T :heart:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.38, Hero calls $0.26

Flop: ($0.78) 5 :heart: 3 :spade: 7 :diamond: (2 players)
BB bets $0.43, Hero calls $0.43

Turn: ($1.64) 4 :heart: (2 players)
BB checks
Hero?
 
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I doubt worse than 10s will call like AK or AQ. Would he 3bet 8s-9s? Most villains won't. I would check to the river. I have seen Js and Qs do this a lot in 3bet pots.
 
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Check, check/fold river.
 
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When he c-bets, and then checks when the board gets scary, he likely has showdown value. 88/99 are really the only hands we beat with showdown value.

Unless villain sucks (which is distinctly possible) he should be betting this board with all his Ax bluffs and overcards. But in a more broad sense, if he bets the river, we can pretty much assume that he's grown the balls to v-bet this board rather than bluff, since its like the worst bluff line ever. Idk, this line just tells me he's either giving up or actually has a hand he's now scared is 2nd best.
 
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you're overthinking it imo.

If he's checking 88-AA on this turn, he's also checking AK/AQ unless it's AKhh/AQhh.

His range is going to be AX so often that will also peel one if we bet small that checking seems terrible.

A four-card straight board needing a 6 isn't TOO scary in a 3-bet pot.
 
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you're overthinking it imo.
If he's checking 88-AA on this turn, he's also checking AK/AQ unless it's AKhh/AQhh.

His range is going to be AX so often that will also peel one if we bet small that checking seems terrible.
Around what amount would you bet here then?
 
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A four-card straight board needing a 6 isn't TOO scary in a 3-bet pot.
He doesn't know we don't have a six. He isn't putting us on a range. His thought process is probably "ahh, scary board, I check". So if he's thinking that, he's probably got a hand.

Also, I'm not sold AK calls a bet on this board. But obviously if he'll call a bet with AJ, we need to put that bet in here, I agree with you on that point. And yeah, assuming he'll fire a second barrel with Ax is probably giving him too much credit for being good.
 
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