4-2 suited flop the flush...

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Another live game hand.

It's 1:30am, only 6 players on the table. I'm seat 7 with the big blind. Blinds are $2-$5

Pre-flop:
Seat 8 fold.
Seat 1 ($142) raise to 20.
fold around.
Seat 6 (about $300) called.
I looked down at my cards and found 4s-2s. Not a hand I normally call with a raise. But the table is kinna shorthanded, and it's only 15 more, if I hit something, I'd make a lotta money. So I called. I have about $500+ chips.

Flop:
Qs-10s-7s
Seat 6 checked. There's $60 in the pot, what do I do?

I'll post what happened later.

P.S. Seat 6 plays loose, and seat 9 plays tight.
 
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I'm not sure I understand how the seating works since you don't mention seat 9 preflop but say that he plays tight at the end. In that case, I'll take it that seat 9 is actually seat 1 wich is the original UTG + 1 raiser.

With two people on board and the loose guy checking it down, it is pretty obvious, at least to me, that you should bet it strongly in order to block high draws (As,Kx, AxKs are all in tight guy range, as is AsJs or a pocket pair that contains a spade, not to mention AKs wich has you drawing dead / loose guy could have any two spades, wich still has you beat).

It is pretty much bound that somebody has a high spade or will represent a higher spade later on in the hand if they call your flop bet. So I'd bet 3/4 pot and reconsider my options later on if I'm reraised or if I get a caller and another spade hits on the turn. I don't feel that this is a hand that can give you a huge pot, but it can and probably will make you give your stack away if you cling to it.

Try to take the pot but let you got to let it go if the cards/player don't cooperate. This is what you get from playing junk hands such as 4s2s ;) You can really and probably will, stack a player if you hit the flush on the turn/river against someone who probably has hit his set, but flopping this weak flush is hell and goes against your original move (trying to trap someone).

PS: Another way of playing it would be checking it down and trying to keep the pot small/get out of the way on subsequent streets. But the thing is that you probably have the nuts right there (and if you don't, you make a good laydown), so betting it strongly would be my first option. Maybe you'll get lucky and somebody has a weak flush and thinks yours is better...
 
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Seat 9 is one off the gun. Seat 8 is under the gun. I am at seat 7 and in the big blind.
 
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I bet $80 into the $60 pot. Yep, I really don't want the high flush draw to call me. I wasn't really scare of the tight ass because he's only got 122 behind at this point, and I want to force him all-in if he thinks he's got a good hand, so the small blind in front of me would fold. Even if he's already make a higher flush, it's only 44 more for me to call the all in. A small price to pay to put on the donkey suit.

As expected, the small blind folds, and I call the all-in. Turn and river and clubs. Seat 9 turns over pocket Kings with a Ks, and was disgusted to see my 4s-2s cracking his Ks. I put the table on tilt after that, and proceed to win $300 more before I took off.
 
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You made the right move by betting strongly and you got your opponent to commit a huge mistake: playing big pot poker on a dangerous board with only high pp. Very +EV for you. I would've bet a bit less, but that's just me. If my opponent had something like JJ, he would be scared that I could have QQ or a higher pocket, wich can make him fold.

We do not want that before the turn, unless we want to take it right there, wich is also a valuable move (since we really have the weakest flush possible and are very vulnerable to draws).
 
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Although your hand is vulnerable, this is a pretty good spot for a check-raise.

ie check, expect a c-bet, hope that seat 6 tags along with a draw or weak pair, then stick in a big raise and trap the dead money.

Nothing wrong with leading either though.
 
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The reason I bet big is I wanted to just take the pot right there and then. I really didn't want any caller, especially seat 6. I had a pretty good idea what seat 9 had, but seat 6 could have anything. He could even try to come over the top and bluff/push me off if I don't bet enough. I was definitely taking a chance there, but I knew I wasn't gonna invest anymore than that if seat 6 check-raise me.
 
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as played or CR like Chuck said. nice job.
 
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