$3 PL O8: $.01/.02 PL O8: $ : plo h/l trouble hand

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not sure what i could have done differently on this hand, i need some advice on how i should have played this hand


pokerstars Game #28167902757: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2009/05/13 21:21:34 ET
Table 'Erfordia II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: JES2 ($2.40 in chips)
Seat 2: scarface1111 ($2.97 in chips)
Seat 3: Fazer_Can ($1.65 in chips)
Seat 4: rahide ($3.31 in chips)
Seat 5: BAD KOOL ($1.07 in chips)
Seat 7: willtexas05 ($2.68 in chips)
Seat 8: DiSantos ($4.24 in chips)
Seat 9: shemphoward ($1.22 in chips)
scarface1111: posts small blind $0.01
Fazer_Can: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JES2 [Jh Kh Qs Jc]
willtexas05 said, "lol"
rahide has timed out
rahide: folds
rahide is sitting out
BAD KOOL: folds
willtexas05: folds
DiSantos: calls $0.02
shemphoward: calls $0.02
JES2: calls $0.02
scarface1111: folds
Fazer_Can: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c Jd 7d]
Fazer_Can: checks
rahide has returned
DiSantos: checks
shemphoward: checks
JES2: checks
*** TURN *** [7c Jd 7d] 6♣
Fazer_Can: checks
DiSantos: bets $0.04
shemphoward: folds
JES2: calls $0.04
Fazer_Can: calls $0.04
*** RIVER *** [7c Jd 7d 6c] 8♣
Fazer_Can: bets $0.04
DiSantos: raises $0.29 to $0.33
JES2: raises $0.31 to $0.64
Fazer_Can: folds
DiSantos: raises $1.53 to $2.17
JES2: raises $0.17 to $2.34 and is all-in
DiSantos said, "straight flush?"
DiSantos: calls $0.17
Fazer_Can leaves the table
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JES2: shows [Jh Kh Qs Jc] (HI: a full house, Jacks full of Sevens)
DiSantos: shows [2d 7s 7h 3d] (HI: four of a kind, Sevens; LO: 8,7,6,3,2)
DiSantos collected $2.37 from pot
DiSantos collected $2.36 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.93 | Rake $0.20
Board [7c Jd 7d 6c 8c]
Seat 1: JES2 (button) showed [Jh Kh Qs Jc] and lost with HI: a full house, Jacks full of Sevens
Seat 2: scarface1111 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Fazer_Can (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: rahide folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BAD KOOL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: willtexas05 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DiSantos showed [2d 7s 7h 3d] and won ($4.73) with HI: four of a kind, Sevens; LO: 8,7,6,3,2
Seat 9: shemphoward folded on the Turn
 
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Well no matter what happened you would have lost. If you start putting your money in on the flop it either would have all gone in then or on the turn. What you want to look at for the future, especially with PLO8, is why did you let this get to the river so cheaply? I understand you wanted to disguise your nut boat to get the max, but by doing so you allowed potential low draws to continue along very cheaply. Say the guy didn't have Quad 7s. He still would have gotten half the pot from the low.

If you are going to play KQJJ in PLO8 and you hit, you better make sure the low draws go away or pay out of their nose to draw for half the pot.

Also, not sure what a cash game hand is doing in the tournament hand section. But I guess the mods can fix that.
 
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Raise preflop, bet the flop, go broke to quad 7's. The raise preflop will likely get you heads up, in position, which is always super nice.

Waiting until the low hits the board to start raising is ABSOLUTELY RETARDED!
 
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You are playing this PF with the knowledge that most likely you will be splitting the pot. Overall unless you have a rakeback plan you will be losing. You could also be in a hand that will quarter you. Fold.

Flop, bet out. Reevaluate on a raise. Lose to the quads.
 
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You are playing this PF with the knowledge that most likely you will be splitting the pot. Overall unless you have a rakeback plan you will be losing. You could also be in a hand that will quarter you. Fold
Because obviously lows are made every hand...
 
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Would you call a raise here PF?
 
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Preflop we've got a pretty meh PLO8 hand. Once we've reached the flop though, bet for value and graet justice. You're still destined to go broke to quads, but you'll make a ton more the times when one of the villains isn't holding something that huge.
 
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No, but its certainly good enough to limp behind 2 limpers on the button.

Raise or fold here. I can see a limp when you have a hand that has a good chance to scoop. Then you want as much money in the pot. This hand is a losing hand over time limping this.
 
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lol there is nothing wrong with limping this hand in a multiway pot in position. There is only a possible low 60% of the time, therefore 40% of the time a high hand scoops the pot and we have a good hand to scoop that high. This hand has a suprisingly high chance of scooping the pot, trust me
 
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Raise or fold here. I can see a limp when you have a hand that has a good chance to scoop. Then you want as much money in the pot. This hand is a losing hand over time limping this.
Why would you want to raise? We have a speculative hand, and we need flops that have 1 low card or less to really feel good about our hand. I feel like this is straight out of Ray Zee's book. And given his book is written for LO8, this hand plays even better pot limit (since speculating is more profitable, since you can get paid off more b/c bigger bets on later streets).

Originally I thought there was only 1 limper, hence why I advocated for a raise on post 3 (omfg, unconverted hands yar). But with 2 limpers, its either limp along or fold. We just don't hit enough flops to make a big pot preflop, and allowing the blinds to come in actually helps our hand.
 
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