3 coolers or 1 cooler and 2 bad plays?

These 3 hands account for a a huge slide in my BR this past couple days.

Should I have folded the overpairs?

In the AA hand, the other fellow had played 2 hands and doubled up when he flopped a set.

The KK hand the guy was 11/3/5 over a small sample size.


fulltiltpoker Game #5863440104: Table Harrow Rock - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:23:37 ET - 2008/04/01
Seat 1: PX Aguirre 3 ($25)
Seat 2: Effexor ($40.60)
Seat 3: BcuzItsSo ($25)
Seat 4: TeUnit ($25.60)
Seat 5: Chinnuts ($30.85)
Seat 6: kouun ($48.35)
Seat 7: Mohrisbetr ($16.95)
Seat 8: Denman1981 ($4.35)
Seat 9: theenergy ($54.75)
theenergy posts the small blind of $0.10
PX Aguirre 3 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Ad Ah]
Effexor raises to $1
BcuzItsSo folds
TeUnit has 15 seconds left to act
TeUnit calls $1
Chinnuts folds
kouun folds
Mohrisbetr folds
Denman1981 folds
theenergy calls $0.90
PX Aguirre 3 folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 9s 2c]
theenergy checks
Effexor bets $3.25
TeUnit folds
theenergy raises to $53.75, and is all in
Effexor has 15 seconds left to act
Effexor has requested TIME
Effexor calls $36.35, and is all in
theenergy shows [8s 8h]
Effexor shows [Ad Ah]
Uncalled bet of $14.15 returned to theenergy
*** TURN *** [8d 9s 2c] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [8d 9s 2c 7s] [6c]
theenergy shows three of a kind, Eights
Effexor shows a pair of Aces
theenergy wins the pot ($79.45) with three of a kind, Eights
Effexor adds $25
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $82.45 | Rake $3
Board: [8d 9s 2c 7s 6c]
Seat 1: PX Aguirre 3 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Effexor showed [Ad Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: BcuzItsSo didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: TeUnit folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Chinnuts didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: kouun didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Mohrisbetr didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Denman1981 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: theenergy (small blind) showed [8s 8h] and won ($79.45) with three of a kind, Eights

FullTiltPoker Game #5867834624: Table Summer Leaf - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:23:29 ET - 2008/04/01
Seat 1: bmc05c ($25.80)
Seat 2: SuperMeff ($28.25)
Seat 3: 6th_player ($48.90)
Seat 4: AKClaudi11 ($25.95)
Seat 5: Sk4nd4l ($25.15)
Seat 6: Falar KO ($27.50)
Seat 7: HansMaiser ($25.10)
Seat 8: Effexor ($29.65)
Seat 9: FloGer86 ($62.40)
HansMaiser posts the small blind of $0.10
Effexor posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Ks Kh]
FloGer86 folds
bmc05c folds
SuperMeff folds
6th_player has 15 seconds left to act
6th_player calls $0.25
AKClaudi11 folds
Sk4nd4l folds
Falar KO folds
HansMaiser folds
Effexor raises to $1.25
6th_player calls $1
*** FLOP *** [9h 6s Td]
Effexor bets $2
6th_player raises to $6
Effexor calls $4
*** TURN *** [9h 6s Td] [4c]
Effexor bets $12
6th_player raises to $24
Effexor calls $10.40, and is all in
6th_player shows [9s 9d]
Effexor shows [Ks Kh]
Uncalled bet of $1.60 returned to 6th_player
*** RIVER *** [9h 6s Td 4c] [Ad]
6th_player shows three of a kind, Nines
Effexor shows a pair of Kings
6th_player wins the pot ($56.45) with three of a kind, Nines
Effexor adds $25
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $59.40 | Rake $2.95
Board: [9h 6s Td 4c Ad]
Seat 1: bmc05c didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: SuperMeff didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: 6th_player showed [9s 9d] and won ($56.45) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 4: AKClaudi11 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Sk4nd4l didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Falar KO (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: HansMaiser (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Effexor (big blind) showed [Ks Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: FloGer86 didn't bet (folded)

FullTiltPoker Game #5867631105: Table Torrey Pines - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:00:17 ET - 2008/04/01
Seat 1: MrXdu ($28.50)
Seat 2: Effexor ($25.60)
Seat 3: FloGer86 ($28.10)
Seat 4: zocker37 ($20.45)
Seat 5: MiltownsMiracle ($23.15)
Seat 6: ANDREABER ($14.25)
Seat 7: Herotje ($25)
Seat 8: krazyjimi ($24.75)
Seat 9: Cdn Chris ($25)
ANDREABER posts the small blind of $0.10
Herotje has 5 seconds left to act
Herotje posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [5s 5c]
krazyjimi folds
Cdn Chris calls $0.25
MrXdu folds
Effexor calls $0.25
FloGer86 folds
zocker37 calls $0.25
MiltownsMiracle folds
ANDREABER calls $0.15
Herotje checks
*** FLOP *** [9s 5h Jd]
ANDREABER checks
Herotje checks
Cdn Chris bets $1
Effexor has 15 seconds left to act
Effexor raises to $3
zocker37 folds
ANDREABER has 15 seconds left to act
ANDREABER raises to $11.25
Herotje folds
Cdn Chris adds $1.25
Cdn Chris folds
Effexor raises to $19.50
ANDREABER calls $2.75, and is all in
Effexor shows [5s 5c]
ANDREABER shows [9h 9c]
Uncalled bet of $5.50 returned to Effexor
*** TURN *** [9s 5h Jd] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [9s 5h Jd 7s] [8s]
Effexor shows three of a kind, Fives
ANDREABER shows three of a kind, Nines
ANDREABER wins the pot ($28.75) with three of a kind, Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $30.25 | Rake $1.50
Board: [9s 5h Jd 7s 8s]
Seat 1: MrXdu didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Effexor showed [5s 5c] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 3: FloGer86 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: zocker37 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: MiltownsMiracle (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: ANDREABER (small blind) showed [9h 9c] and won ($28.75) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 7: Herotje (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: krazyjimi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Cdn Chris folded on the Flop

Those are all coolers I think. The first however is not a good call, what is he going to push with there?

flint said:

Those are all coolers I think. The first however is not a good call, what is he going to push with there?

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Wouldn't another overpair such as JJ-KK make this move possibly?

3rd was definitely a cooler. The first is an easy fold...he bets 50$ into a <5$ pot so he definitely isn't doing that with anything less than 2 pair. He's just hoping you have a hand and think he is bluffing.

I don't like the way you played the 2nd either. I would have not flat called the turn but come over the top and then probably folded when he shoved. Ofc it is possible he would have made the same move with JJ/QQ.

I think I can fold the AA hand pretty easily.

The KK is a bit read dependent.

The 55 hand is obv a cooler.

Yeah the first one is the only real problem here. I don't think it's an standard fold, but considering we're deep and relatively readless, I usually assume he's got two pair or better here. I think assuming he won't do this with JT/TT-KK is probably the best thing to do.

If we're $25 deep I probably instacall.

The rest are coolers - the KK vs 99s is a little oddly played but still a cooler.

The AA hand you have to throw away. Stacks are too deep there to stack off against an unknown with a single pair. The last hand is a cooler plain and simple. The KK hand is the most interesting. I would have likely gone broke there BUT the new Harrington cash game books would advise you to check the turn and try to get to a showdown cheaply or throw your kings away. He'd likely bet (although likely less than your pot-sized bet) on the turn if checked to and you'd almost have to call his bet on the turn, but you could have check-folded the river that way.