2nl What did I do wrong?

2nl What am I doing wrong?

pokerstars Game #19754950188: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/08/20 - 03:28:51 (ET)
Table 'Iphiklos' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Kiebitz0815 ($2.95 in chips)
Seat 2: Bigpsylick ($1.77 in chips)
Seat 3: nodychu ($0.86 in chips)
Seat 4: Philone01 ($7.20 in chips)
Seat 5: dholubeshen ($1.66 in chips)
Seat 6: banzai2313 ($3.46 in chips)
banzai2313: posts small blind $0.01
Kiebitz0815: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Philone01 [3h 3d]
Bigpsylick: calls $0.02
nodychu: folds
Philone01: calls $0.02
dholubeshen: folds
banzai2313: calls $0.01
nodychu leaves the table
Kiebitz0815: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c As 6c]
banzai2313: bets $0.10
Kiebitz0815: folds
Bigpsylick: folds
Philone01: raises $0.32 to $0.42
banzai2313: calls $0.32
*** TURN *** [3c As 6c] 5♦
banzai2313: checks
Philone01: bets $1.62
banzai2313: calls $1.62
*** RIVER *** [3c As 6c 5d] 2♣
banzai2313: checks
Philone01: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
banzai2313: shows [Kc 9c] (a flush, King high)
Philone01: mucks hand
xiceicex joins the table at seat #3
banzai2313 collected $3.96 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.16 | Rake $0.20
Board [3c As 6c 5d 2c]
Seat 1: Kiebitz0815 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Bigpsylick folded on the Flop
Seat 3: nodychu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Philone01 mucked [3h 3d]
Seat 5: dholubeshen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: banzai2313 (small blind) showed [Kc 9c] and won ($3.96) with a flush, King high

I have been losing a lot of money lately and I feel like I am doing something wrong. Constantly losing money with hands like this.
My bankroll continues to jump between $40 and $20 but never getting past $40 I feel like im hitting a brick wall over and over and over again.

And This, Just a few hands later. I feel like i am spewing chips losing pot after pot.

PokerStars Game #19754975164: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/08/20 - 03:31:37 (ET)
Table 'Iphiklos' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Kiebitz0815 ($2.91 in chips)
Seat 2: Bigpsylick ($1.72 in chips)
Seat 3: xiceicex ($0.96 in chips)
Seat 4: Philone01 ($5.14 in chips)
Seat 5: dholubeshen ($1.83 in chips)
Seat 6: banzai2313 ($5.28 in chips)
xiceicex: posts small blind $0.01
Philone01: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Philone01 [5h 6h]
dholubeshen: folds
banzai2313: folds
Kiebitz0815: calls $0.02
Bigpsylick: folds
xiceicex: calls $0.01
Philone01: checks
*** FLOP *** [7s 5s 6c]
xiceicex: bets $0.02
Philone01: raises $5.10 to $5.12 and is all-in
Kiebitz0815: folds
xiceicex: calls $0.92 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($4.18) returned to Philone01
*** TURN *** [7s 5s 6c] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [7s 5s 6c 7h] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xiceicex: shows [Tc 8c] (a straight, Four to Eight)
Philone01: mucks hand
xiceicex collected $1.89 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.94 | Rake $0.05
Board [7s 5s 6c 7h 4d]
Seat 1: Kiebitz0815 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Bigpsylick (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: xiceicex (small blind) showed [Tc 8c] and won ($1.89) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 4: Philone01 (big blind) mucked [5h 6h]
Seat 5: dholubeshen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: banzai2313 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I'd say both your opponents made tuff calls there, flush draw first and open straight draw second ...
Bad luck for you I would say ...
Tho will be interesting to see what the Big Guys have to say about it.

I think u played the first hand well just go to outdrawn.

The second hand is bad imo.
you flop 2pairs on a 3to a str8 board and 2 to a flush and with 8cents in the pot you decite to push all-in, 90% of the times you are only gonna get called by hands that have u beat.
If you whould have re-raised to 8-10cents you could a slowed down on the turn when the second 7 showed up and folded on the river when the 4 came.

First hand is a bad beat. Second one would be horrible at higher stakes. I guess that at 2NL you get called by enough weak drawing hands to make the shove ok.

Both cases you got your money in with the best equity. it doesn't mean you get to win the hand all the time.

Also, people tend to remember the bad beats a lot more than the good suck outs. The only way to assess if you're really on a bad luck streak is to use a program like pokerEV (requires PT 2) or HEM to display your all-in EV or your slansky bucks. Do you have access to one of those?

If it can be of any solace to you, I ran $400 under all-in EV in July. Nothing you can do about but play more hands to have luck even out.

Okay, like everyone said, the first hand is played fine. On average, you're going to win big money there.

The second hand is pretty bad. Understand this point: You want them to chase their draw! By chasing, on average they are giving you money (as long as you're betting enough to make their call incorrect). Sure, very often in the short run you will lose a stack because they chase so many draws and will hit them once in a while. But over the long run, that kind of play will make you excellent money, and you need to exploit it accordingly.

The only way the second hand is good is if you were fairly sure they would call your huge over-bet with a hand worse than 2 pair.

first hand you played fine, you're ahead the whole time and minimized your lose on 5th street. The 2nd hand I think your okay also. People are saying you want the person to chase there draw, but at that limit they're such maniacs that there calling range could even be bottom pair there.

At higher limits, a pot bet or just under a pot bet would probobly be your best option on hand 2

Regarding c9h13no3's post, I understand the idea that I want them to chase their draw with inappropriate pot odds; is it also appropriate to try to "pull the plug" on their draw on lets say the turn, if you feel that the pot is either big enough to be taken or you feel it's approaching a point where you can no longer control it?

Lopos said:

Regarding c9h13no3's post, I understand the idea that I want them to chase their draw with inappropriate pot odds; is it also appropriate to try to "pull the plug" on their draw on lets say the turn, if you feel that the pot is either big enough to be taken or you feel it's approaching a point where you can no longer control it?

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Your goal in poker is to win money, not win pots.

If you're on the turn, and you can put him in a -EV situation, you bloody well do it. This is not optional. So if he'll call 5$ incorrectly with a draw, but make a correct fold for $5.05 you must bet 5$ every time, or you're burning money.

c9h13no3 said:

Your goal in poker is to win money, not win pots.

If you're on the turn, and you can put him in a -EV situation, you bloody well do it. This is not optional. So if he'll call 5$ incorrectly with a draw, but make a correct fold for $5.05 you must bet 5$ every time, or you're burning money.

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I'll be honest, I was tilting a bit after that first suckout. So when I picked up the bottom 2 pair I really didn't feel like getting outdrawn again, so I figured I would just shove this flop hoping to take down the tiny pot without a showdown. I also felt he was capable of calling with a hand like a bare 8 or 4 so If he did call me I was going to have him drawing thin with improper odds. I doubt I would make this kind of raise anywhere but 2nl as belgo said at higher stakes I'm only getting called by a hand that has my bottom 2 beat.