re: Poker & 25NLFR, flush on 2pair board facing rivers shove
Originally Posted by phatjose
Ok so to everyone saying raise raise raise, what hands do we get action out of if we pop it up to $5-6 on the flop? Given that the villain seems weak tight and isn't comfortable betting unless he feels he has the best hand, what hands could he have that still play back at us? JJ obv, and QQ with the Qc, but will AA and KK stack here given that they have no redraw on a draw heavy board?
At 25NL, most people erroneously assume that with a 3 flush board, someone will have the flush. My goal was to get his entire stack. If the turn and river blank, which happens much more often than the board pairing twice, then he hangs himself. I'm not saying I played this hand great (obviously since I posted it), but I'm not altogether convinced that raising is the best play either.
If your goal is to get his entire stack in the pot, the best play is to let him hit a full house and then do it.
I'm not even entirely sarcastic when I say that. This seems like one of those spots where you only get all the chips if he has a monster on the flop or he outdraws you. You said he's weak-tight, so why do you think he would stack with less than a big hand even if you slowplay? He's not an aggro monster. And you have both the ace and king of clubs, so the only good draws are the full house draw and the straight flush draw, and those both beat you (well, one straight flush doesn't beat you, but that's splitting hairs a bit). I'd save the slowplays for the ragged flops and the overly aggressive players.
By the way, call me crazy but as played I'd fold the river. If he's not a very aggressive player, he's not going to three barrel bluff his whole stack, and by the river even AA is a bluff. Not to mention that a big river bet on that kind of board is often at least the top full house. After all, why bet so much on the bluff? The opponent's either got a monster or he's going to fold to any decent bet.