25nl vs maniac

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This guy was literally 90/90

He raised UTG with 56o, he reraised big with K6o, played just about every hand and raised big, or 3 bet big.

Against his range, which was literally ATC isn't this an obvious shove?

Stacks:
SB with $26.80
BB with $28.00
UTG with $23.60
MP1 with $39.20
MP2 with $22.25
CO with $38.80
BTN with $22.85



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Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to SB:K♣ A♠
Sklansky group 2
Preflop:
UTG raises $3.50 to $3.75
4 players fold.
Hero ??????? (I'm in the SB)
 
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He's not backing down from anything based on his stats. You have two options, shoving or calling and evaluating. Since he's going to call anything anyway, I like to at least see the flop and figure out where I'm at since AK is a drawing hand anyway.
 
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He's not backing down from anything based on his stats. You have two options, shoving or calling and evaluating. Since he's going to call anything anyway, I like to at least see the flop and figure out where I'm at since AK is a drawing hand anyway.

the thing is that we're going to miss most flops with AK. we are also going to get bet into if we check the flop pretty much 100% of the time by this guy.

so if we call then we will most of the time have to either donkbet blindly with Ace-high or check-fold what may well be the best hand.

if we think a pf shove is likely to be called, then we should clearly shove pf. the other big problem with playing with a guy like this as opposed to a more 'standard' player is you will have no idea if he has J-high, a straight draw or a set on say a 952r flop. you want to avoid having to make flop decisions OOP against this sort of person.
 
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yes just leave the table because there's no way anyone should want to play bad players. :rolleyes:
 
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When you are playing someone like this leave the table...just not worth the risk

Why on earth would you want to walk away when there's an ATM at the table???
 
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Against this villain this is a clear shove for me, mainly for the reasons DM has suggested.
 
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Against this villain this is a clear shove for me, mainly for the reasons DM has suggested.

Against this villain, I agree.

On the other hand, against more elaborate villains, DM's reasoning has one drawback: AK is the single hand in our range that we raise for more than the pot preflop. That makes us predictable against observing opponents and remove the fold equity against small pocket pairs which is an important part of why we play AK so agressively preflop.

There's a video on stox (but i'm terrible at remembering which) where a villain does what DM suggests, and the coach says: this is always AK, i call here with any pocket pair.
 
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if there's one thing i miss about being a mod it's that i can't edit my posts to make sense after someone's post has been deleted :(
 
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Yeah this is a shove preflop as well ... but I would like to know if his bet sizing has been consistant. If he's always raising to $1.25 and then out of 20ish hands this is the first time he's raising to $3.50 we can most likely put him on a decent hand (AK, AQ, JJ+) which we don't fare well against here. But if this is just his standard way of doing it, then go for it (this is a bit of a gamble).
 
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