25nl set vs surprising river action

only about 50 hands on villian but hes 24/12 and has c-bet four out of four chances

what do i make of this raise?

and oh yeah ignore my stack size, i know i know buy in full blah blah blah


full tilt poker Game #8643352142: Table Dolphin Landing - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:49:53 ET - 2008/10/24
Seat 1: RoyalChin ($5.95)
Seat 2: luvpotion09 ($27.30)
Seat 3: jjgo1979 ($26.90)
Seat 4: jks_dt ($24.75)
Seat 5: jujuom ($29.30)
Seat 6: hackmatin ($5)
Seat 7: justboating ($34.25)
Seat 8: EmptyTheClip07 ($17.30)
Seat 9: mitrao87 ($9.05)
jujuom posts the small blind of $0.10
hackmatin posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EmptyTheClip07 [9s 9d]
justboating folds
EmptyTheClip07 calls $0.25
mitrao87 folds
RoyalChin folds
luvpotion09 folds
jjgo1979 folds
jks_dt raises to $1.10
jujuom folds
hackmatin folds
EmptyTheClip07 calls $0.85
*** FLOP *** [3s 9h 6s]
EmptyTheClip07 checks
jks_dt bets $1.75
EmptyTheClip07 calls $1.75
*** TURN *** [3s 9h 6s] [Qs]
EmptyTheClip07 checks
jks_dt checks
*** RIVER *** [3s 9h 6s Qs] [4d]
EmptyTheClip07 bets $2
jks_dt raises to $6.50
EmptyTheClip07 ????

to me your bet looks small. 2 into a 5.70 pot just screams for an agressive player to reraise. I think I'm calling here, all you can be worried about legitimately is queens. he cant be raising 57 here so i think i'd push.

With a push I think alot of tptk stuff is calling you here, def kk+ and might even get looked up by 10's or j's. def any two pair hand.

raise flop? it's too drawy for you to flat call. makes your decisions a lot easier.

raise preflop...raise flop, and bet on turn..

I agree with Delta. You really can't fold and considering your stack size I'm saying push. If you were deeper then I'd lean towards just calling.

Ugh! just lost missclicked my long reply out of existance.
OK, here's the shorter version.

Folding is out of the question. With a 24% VP$iP we should assume that his preflop raise after your EP limp means exactly what it's supposed to mean, namely, a med to big pair or 2 high cards, suited or otherwise.
Your opponents stats suggest a moderately aggressive but controlled approach, which means that while a continuation bet by him is standard, any susbsequent actions will be based on his actual strength and/or his read of you.

Your flat call of a coordinated flop followed by a scare card would be troubling after a continuation bet and his checking behind on the turn would seem to indicate uncertainty if it wern't for the extremely callable checkraise on the river. Your play was exactly consistent with a made flush draw however he remained undeterred. My guess is that your beat and his most likely holding is A♠10♠- A♠K♠. You still call though.

Deltafrost said:

to me your bet looks small. 2 into a 5.70 pot just screams for an agressive player to reraise.

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well i mean i def wanted a call so put a lil smaller value bet out there

i thought i wanted the re-raise and when he did i immediatly didn't know how to react


at four dogs


i think i played this hand way to passively probably due to my lack of action of sets recently
i ended up pushing thinking maybe he was just raising the smalllish bet and he called with JK of spades for a flush

meh

jewboy07 said:

well i mean i def wanted a call so put a lil smaller value bet out there

i thought i wanted the re-raise and when he did i immediatly didn't know how to react


at four dogs


i think i played this hand way to passively probably due to my lack of action of sets recently
i ended up pushing thinking maybe he was just raising the smalllish bet and he called with JK of spades for a flush
meh

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Maybe a little.
99 is a bit too strong to play for set value IMO but many strong player disagree and it's really a matter of preference. A reraise then would have really narrowed his range.

A checkraise on the flop is OK if not a little unimaginative, but it all depends on your read of him and how you played it preflop. If I was playing aggressively (which I do) and if I raised preflop (which I would have) I would have followed with an automatic out of position bet hoping that it would be seen as a standard CB and get action from top (unlikely) or middle pair or even a drawing hand. As it stands, showing strength on the flop after a preflop limp will probably freeze the action if your opponent is any good at all, so a checkraise may have been your best bet to get any value at all from your set.

What was your intention when you just called his flop bet? If you thought he would put you on a draw and bet again if the turn blanked then no problem. But there should be absolutely no other reason not to follow his bet with a reraise.

As it is, your passive post flop play and his sandbagged flush saved you a bundle. If you had raised the turn, he would have reraised or shoved and you would have had a very tough decision to make. If he had bet the turn, his flush would have been well concealed and you might have been inclined to shove. In the end, only his suspicious minraise on the river, where any weaker hand would have feared the suited board, betrayed his hand.

Still, you had to make the crying call. The possibility of a bluff or that he was overestimating the strength of his hand were too great to ignore, not to mention the underappreciated value of seeing his hand for such a cheap price.

Nice post jewboy. Keep 'em coming.

I probably raise preflop, limping is something you'll have to eliminate from your game as you move to 50nl and 100nl. Not a huge mistake at 25nl I don't think.

RAISE FLOP, bet turn, call a shove, otherwise shove river.