25NL Q-Q against three fishes

I know I only have 32 hands on these guys, but they are all running ~45/15 like. Villain that raises me OTF is 47/16 over 32 hands and hasn't shown a hand yet, so I don't know if he is ever doing this with 10-x. He has raised OTF 0/3 times, which led me to my fold. How's my line? Could anyone find a jam here? Or with someone like him, could I call OTF and get it in on a non heart turn?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Converter Tool from

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SB ($70.63)
BB ($16.87)
UTG ($25)
Hero (UTG+1) ($26.81)
MP1 ($22.26)
MP2 ($35.88)
MP3 ($26.46)
CO ($25)
Button ($48.69)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q , Q
1 fold, Hero bets $0.85, MP1 calls $0.85, 2 folds, CO calls $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.50) 8 , 10 , 6 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, MP1 raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero folds

Fold is fine, your equity vs the range that raises you here sucks, plus you're oop. Villains at 25nl are usually raising for value more than as semi-bluffs and the such. But even v an ace-high flush draw, you're only 53%. Add in the times he's got a set or slow-played KK/AA and you're drawing to 2 outs, or has T8/86 and putting money in here is going to end up being -EV.

This is a cash game HA, so I moved it here from the tournament forum.

so you'll just float away an overpair every time you get raised? lol id love to play with you buddy no offense or anything, but i just cant let myself get pushed around like that aka be a hyper nit unless the other guy is a hyper nit too

None taken, if you wanna play, I'm pretty much always down Can IM me or something and we can put some hands in

OK MW I would have bet that pot a tad samller, maybe $2.50 In a MW pot QQ really suffers from reverse implied odds.

Fish dont tend to bet draws, so its more likely to be a set or 2 pair T8 or 68 are all in their ranges.

They tend to call with flush draws.

In position I might call a min raise, but here we are OOP against a villian type who seems to want to get the money in on a drawy board, which usually means they have a hand and dont want you to draw.

Really he could only be doing this with AT or JJ (which you beat) but he could also be doing this with slow played KK or AA AKs T8 86 79 TT 88 66 so you arent ahead here. He probably isnt betting all of the draws.

I think fold.

He is a fish, you dont beat much and he seems to want to get the money in, usually fish lose their money by making bad calls rather than bad large raises.

being on the laggy side over a small sample does not make someone a fish.
I dont see why you'd bet this flop. what worse hands call? how many Tx hands does villain possibly call with that make this profitable? would villain not raise his AT,KT hands?
Assume villain is a fish, he's staring at AT, and someone raises into him, what would he do? wouldn't he raise?

The guy's 47/16, I'm definitely not folding yet

Skaplun said:

being on the laggy side

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47/16 isn't laggy

Raise.Why fold to him?