25NL KQ?

KingCurtis

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Stacks:
* FreNzyFinger with $25.00
* BTN with $14.50
* SB with $27.65
* BB with $10.45
* UTG with $17.30
* MP1 with $17.20
* MP2 with $40.85

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Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: pokerstars
* * Dealt to SB:K♠ Q♦
* * Sklansky group 4
Preflop:
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP1 calls [$0.25]
* * 1 players fold.
* * frenzyfinger calls [$0.25]
* * 1 players fold.
Hero calls [$0.15]
* * BB: checks
* * Total folds this street: 3
* * Potsize: $1
Flop: J♦ Q♣ 2♠ Hero bets [$0.75]
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP1 raises $1.50 to $2.25
* * frenzyfinger calls [$2.25] Hero calls [$1.50]
* * Total folds this street: 1
* * Potsize: $7.75
Turn: 4♠ Hero: checks
* * MP1 bets [$8.50]
* * 2 players fold.
* * Uncalled bet ($8.50) returned to MP1
* * MP1 collected $7.40 from pot
* * MP1: doesn't show hand
* * Total folds this street: 2

Ok so at 10NL I might have considered just ting him all in but I just felt I was beat here for some reason...any suggestions on how to play this?
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I would rather raise here prf cause i hate playing a limped pot OOP with a hand like KQ. So yeah i probably bumb it up to 1,25-1,50$ prf if im gonna play this hand.
On the flop its 100% villain depended imo,any stats?
22,QJ are probable but so is QT,T9s,Qx.ect
So i dno with out any reads i also fold the turn after he overbets but im not sure about the flop call.
 
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Well I wouldn't be calling the raise on the flop hoping it checks down on the turn. It doesn't seem very likely to happen with two other players. I'd be making a decision on the flop if I think my hand is good. That's not to say that I'd reraise on the flop, because that would price out the hands that pay you off big here. I'm more likely to flat call and check/raise a safe turn if I decide that my KQ is good.

But I think it's perfectly reasonable to fold to the flop raise. Your ideal situation is that they both have weaker queens, but that seems so unlikely both as a matter of raw probability and the strength that they are showing on the flop. Frenzy's most likely hands in cold calling a raise are OESDs, monsters, and moderate to strong queens, making it a SA/WB situation (slightly ahead/way behind). Add to that the fact that the raiser is repping at least KQ, and I think it's a dangerous spot. I think I like a flop fold best. It would take some loose reads on these opponents to make me want to tangle with TPSK.

Edit: If I had opted to call the flop and check/raise the turn, and then he came out with that bet, it would definitely give me pause. To me that looks like a strong made hand that's not worried about better made hands but is worried about draws. I'm definitely not above saying, "Oops, I made the wrong decision on the flop," and just chucking it on the turn.
 
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thanks guys and i dont remember the stats exactly but he was fairly tight with no aggression over like 50 hands, plus he was SS
 
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At the .10/.25 level I'm raising this limped pot pre-flop, even oop. Make it 1.25 to go and you will probably clear out one of the limpers and you've given your hand a lot of definition if you do get a caller. Does an opponent usually limp then smooth call with AQ in this situation? I'm guessing his hand is at best a small to med pair, maybe even 10 10. He could have the same as your hand, or possibly a Q worse kicker, although you can't rule out QJ. So for one dollar more, which is hardly a dent on your stack, you've just gotten a ton of information. Without the raise pre-flop you can't rule out MP1 from having caught any two-pair or set on the flop and now you're in a much worse place.
 
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At the .10/.25 level I'm raising this limped pot pre-flop, even oop. Make it 1.25 to go and you will probably clear out one of the limpers and you've given your hand a lot of definition if you do get a caller. Does an opponent usually limp then smooth call with AQ in this situation? I'm guessing his hand is at best a small to med pair, maybe even 10 10. He could have the same as your hand, or possibly a Q worse kicker, although you can't rule out QJ. So for one dollar more, which is hardly a dent on your stack, you've just gotten a ton of information. Without the raise pre-flop you can't rule out MP1 from having caught any two-pair or set on the flop and now you're in a much worse place.

I did put him on the same hand possibly, but didnt think the risk was worth splitting it?
 
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