[25NL FR] weird preflop action

BelgoSuisse

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UTG+1 calls UTG limp than reraises my BTN raise? wtf? Should I 4 bet bluff?

Villain is 25/21/2

full tilt poker Game #7328994554: Table Rochelle - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:42:56 ET - 2008/07/22
Seat 2: Zeljka_Cro ($24.70)
Seat 3: hcnrb ($29.80)
Seat 4: sini2010 ($23.70)
Seat 5: Oceana2007 ($5.40)
Seat 6: SunTzu19 ($37.50)
Seat 7: BelgoSuisse ($25.35)
Seat 8: Johann7751 ($5.95)
Seat 9: xbornx ($5)
Johann7751 posts the small blind of $0.10
xbornx posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BelgoSuisse [Ts 8s]
Zeljka_Cro calls $0.25
hcnrb calls $0.25
sini2010 folds
Oceana2007 folds
SunTzu19 folds
BelgoSuisse raises to $1.35
Johann7751 folds
xbornx adds $0.25
xbornx folds
bornheim385 sits down
Zeljka_Cro has 15 seconds left to act
bornheim385 stands up
Zeljka_Cro folds
hcnrb raises to $3.60
BelgoSuisse calls $2.25
*** FLOP *** [9s 5d 4h]
richieslav sits down
richieslav adds $25
hcnrb has 15 seconds left to act
hcnrb bets $7.50
BelgoSuisse adds $3.25
BelgoSuisse folds
Uncalled bet of $7.50 returned to hcnrb
hcnrb mucks
hcnrb wins the pot ($7.45)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.80 | Rake $0.35
Board: [9s 5d 4h]
Seat 2: Zeljka_Cro folded before the Flop
Seat 3: hcnrb collected ($7.45), mucked
Seat 4: sini2010 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Oceana2007 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: SunTzu19 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: BelgoSuisse (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Johann7751 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: xbornx (big blind) folded before the Flop
 
Jillychemung

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Pretty standard line by some players w/ AA. Did you check opponents starting hands to see if s/he was only playing big hands and was just on a heater to get the 25/21 numbers?
 
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Pretty standard line by some players w/ AA. Did you check opponents starting hands to see if s/he was only playing big hands and was just on a heater to get the 25/21 numbers?

Not enough hands for that.

Should I fold preflop, then?
 
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Just limp behind?

I've never 4-bet bluffed at full ring. People just do not 3-bet light enough for it to be effective.
 
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Just limp behind?

I've never 4-bet bluffed at full ring. People just do not 3-bet light enough for it to be effective.

You mean limp instead of raise in the first place?

The thing is, attacking limpers from the BTN is such a profitable move that i really hate to limp behind. I don't do it everytime because i do get called from time to time, but suited 1-gapers is certainly good enough for a raise.
 
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i don't mind the raise as many times the limpers will fold and of course disguises our hand if we hit something big but when someone plays back like this i just don't bluff.

this is AA or KK to many times for it to be profitable imo anyway
 
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You mean limp instead of raise in the first place?

The thing is, attacking limpers from the BTN is such a profitable move that i really hate to limp behind. I don't do it everytime because i do get called from time to time, but suited 1-gapers is certainly good enough for a raise.
If there was another limper in the pot, I would certainly be limping behind. We have a hand that plays well multi-way, so why not play it that way?

Sure, its profitable to raise, but I don't think calling is a big mistake either.
 
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yea this is rarely anything but aks qq+ so just fold preflop. if you had a small pp i'd be tempted to call just for the implied odds, but 4 bet bluff here would be a horrible play because they aren't going to fold this ever. probably best to throw away s/cs just because, even if you hit a draw after the flop, you probably have 0 fold equity so the hand loses alot of value since raising is just going to get money in as a dog (unles you hit a combo draw but that hardly ever happens) and c/cing a draw isn't a great line seeing as most ppl bet aa/kk like the nuts so i wouldn't count on remotely decent pot odds.
 
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Agree with what's been said above: I fold to the re-raise, this is just far too common a line for aces / kings.

Our range is wide and villain has made a very strong move, so I don't even think we take too much damage to our image from an incident like this.
 
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I fold to his 3bet. Could be a monster or perhaps he's picked up on your tendency to attack limpers from the button and decided to make a move. Either way it's not a spot I want to call a 3bet from.

When did you drop back to 25NL??
 
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When did you drop back to 25NL??

I got on a major bad luck streak this weekend, down $400 below Sklansky bucks, so even though my bankroll still allows me to play 50nl, i prefer to ride past the bad karma at a lower level. But i'll move back up pretty soon.
 
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