re: Poker & [25NL FR] JJ OOP
Originally Posted by Effexor
Do me a favor and list some ranges for WTSD or fold to c-bet and how you react to those ranges. ie. How to apply those stats in general.
I consider a WTSD of about 25 or less to be lowish, and 30% or more to be high. Fold to c-bet % that's high would be say 65%+. Low is probably anything under 45-50.
If a player has a high WTSD or low fold to c-bet %, obviously we can value bet thinner, since they will be floating us more with middle pair type hands. If they fold very often, then we should certainly check the turn, since their flop calling range is so much stronger.
The main problem with these stats though is that they take a while to converge, so you need ~150 hands or so before you start using them. When I check the fold to c-bet stat, I usually check how many flops that player has seen in raised pots as well. But if their fold to c-bet is tiny (0%-20%) and you've seen 4-5 flops, you can safely assume they hate giving up to c-bets, especially when you combine those numbers with his fishy VPIP & PFR.
The other thing that makes me want to fire a second barrel is the board texture. Lots of hands have pair + gutshot type draws that will call another turn bet, especially against a spewy fish. He's peeling the flop with all sorts of T9, 78, 99, J8 type hands that we can get value from. Maybe if his fold to flop c-bet % is like 80% then we can assume he folds those, but with such a low aggression factor & high VPIP, the mistake he likely makes is calling too much. So lets give him a chance to make his favorite mistake.