[25NL FR] Bottom 2 River Value Bet??

One of the first few hands at the table, so readless.

pokerstars Game #18507539066: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/07/01 - 11:44:28 (ET)
Table 'Simonida' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: DeezNutz805 ($13.10 in chips)
Seat 2: DawsonS64 ($26.40 in chips)
Seat 3: sniperdan80 ($26.90 in chips)
Seat 4: bw07507 ($30.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Fox Mulder01 ($6.80 in chips)
Seat 6: GerhardB ($30.55 in chips)
Seat 7: smoking_jim ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 8: phatjose ($30.70 in chips)
Seat 9: Beltane G ($24 in chips)
Fox Mulder01: posts small blind $0.10
GerhardB: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bw07507 [6s 8s]
smoking_jim: raises $0.50 to $0.75
phatjose: folds
Beltane G: folds
DeezNutz805: folds
DawsonS64: folds
sniperdan80: calls $0.75
bw07507: calls $0.75
Fox Mulder01: calls $0.65
GerhardB: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kh 6d 9s]
Fox Mulder01: checks
smoking_jim: bets $0.50
sniperdan80: calls $0.50
bw07507: calls $0.50
Fox Mulder01: folds
*** TURN *** [Kh 6d 9s] [8c]
smoking_jim: bets $0.50
sniperdan80: calls $0.50
bw07507: raises $4.50 to $5
smoking_jim: calls $4.50
sniperdan80: calls $4.50
*** RIVER *** [Kh 6d 9s 8c] [3h]
smoking_jim: checks
sniperdan80: checks
bw07507: ?

Bet for value here or check behind for pot control??

How does the 3 change anything? We're still afraid of 7T and 57, and sets & 2 pair.

I expect to see one player with a lone 7, and who knows what smoking jim is holding, but it looks pretty weak.

I valuebet here for sure. 10$

I like the value bet but I would totally respect checking it down since it's such a wierd hand and the pot's pretty big to begin with.

I would just check behind, we have very little idea what our opponents are on at this point and I feel that our hand doesnt have enough showdown value to v-bet but also has too much showdown value to not see the showdow, so by just checking behind you effectively can capitalize on your showdown value and avoid a tricky sopt if you v-bet and get raised.

I'd value bet it. I think a king usually pays off and hands like T9 and maybe even 78 could look you up. smoking_jim's line is pretty weak, and sniperdan's is extremely weak. I think you will get two folds a lot, perhaps even a majority of the time, but a payoff is way more likely than being beat by another hand.

The river check-raise on a blank is very rarely a bluff, so I have no qualms about value betting something like $8 and then tossing it to any raise. It's not THAT strong a hand.

I don't really see the point in exercising pot control on the river, especially in a cash game. If a bet is +EV on the river, do it. If your hand happens not to be best this time, spammmmm rebuy.

i'd value bet

one of them or both them with have some combination of a single pair and/or a draw most of the time i think.

That .50 bet on the flop followed by calls is so weak...

as was already said...the 3 doesn't change a thing unless one of them called you down with 33 or K3 or something stupid, in which case i doubt they check the river anyway.

Value bet!!

I don't see how the action so far suggests any of them have you beat often enough to make betting not profitable.

ChuckTs said:

Value bet!!

I don't see how the action so far suggests any of them have you beat often enough to make betting not profitable.

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what happens if you v-bet and get shoved in? surely you would consider youself beat?

Munchrs said:

what happens if you v-bet and get shoved in? surely you would consider youself beat?

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Getting check/raised on this river is unlikely, and its still not a reason to not value bet.

Stop being so nitty.

Munchrs said:

what happens if you v-bet and get shoved in? surely you would consider youself beat?

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Deal with the check-raise when or if it comes. Do you fold 76s on the button because of the risk of getting 3bet off your hand?