[25nl FR] AQ rainbow flop cbet, A turn, line ?

eNTy

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MP1: $44.18 (176.7 bb)
MP2: $26.27 (105.1 bb)
MP3: $6.31 (25.2 bb)
CO: $27.44 (109.8 bb)
BTN: $18.32 (73.3 bb)
SB: $16.36 (65.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $34.21 (136.8 bb)
UTG+1: $5.05 (20.2 bb)
UTG+2: $25.35 (101.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with Q
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A
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6 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $1.30, CO calls $1.05, SB calls $1.05

Flop: ($3.90) T
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5
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9
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(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.55, CO calls $2.55, SB folds

Turn: ($9) A
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(2 players)
Hero bets $5.30, CO calls $5.30

River: ($19.60) 2
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(2 players)
Hero ??

Villain is 33/0/0.17 over 33 hands, don't know if that PFR is correct but it says so in HEM anyway.

What do you think of flop cbet ?
Is it too raggy to cbet ? Should I just check instead and give up if I dont hit ?
Then on the turn, I figured this card saved my hand. So I bet for value right ? What do I make of this turn call by CO ? Then on the river how do we proceed ?

Did I get myself in a tough spot by not checking flop ?
 
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Flop cbet is OK although 3-ways and OOP against a passive player who is not likely to bluff bet a check would be fine as well imo. River I think is a small value/blocking bet. This guy is never going to raise you without a hand that beats you but he's likely going to call with anything. I bet maybe $6 and fold to ANY raise.
 
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So a bigger bet is bad here ?

Is it the wa/wb concept thing ? That he'll only call or raise, since we are committed then, with better hands and fold with worse ?
 
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So a bigger bet is bad here ?

Is it the wa/wb concept thing ? That he'll only call or raise, since we are committed then, with better hands and fold with worse ?

Basically we know he's only calling with weak holdings here. We want to give him a good price to call. I probably bet around $10 here but too much over that or else he'll have an excuse to fold ;).
 
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Basically we know he's only calling with weak holdings here. We want to give him a good price to call. I probably bet around $10 here but too much over that or else he'll have an excuse to fold ;).

Ok so we are committing ourselves now ? $10 leaves me with $4 left in my stack I think.

I'm confused now.
 
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So a bigger bet is bad here ?
I don't think so at all. He's calling with any ten and some 9s. I bet more on the turn and bet the river as much as I think he'll call.

I guess FR players are less likely to call down with underpairs and are more likely to slowplay a set, but even with that said I don't think I slow down at all.

I probably check back flop though.
 
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I don't think so at all. He's calling with any ten and some 9s. I bet more on the turn and bet the river as much as I think he'll call.

I guess FR players are less likely to call down with underpairs and are more likely to slowplay a set, but even with that said I don't think I slow down at all.

I probably check back flop though.

OK, fair enough.

Do you check the flop with a guy behind us to act ? (CO)
And what if he bets, then we're out of there right.

I like to cbet those kind of flops with the thinking: if the villains have anything they'll let me know soon, but for the most part with their callign ranges they should miss.

I tend to take a lot of flops this way. Is this bad ?
Is it more profitable to check flops like these, even against 1 villain, and hope to improve later and if not c/f ?
 
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Whether or not to cbet depends entirely on how their ranges hit the flop and how well they fold to cbets (fold to cbet stat obv.).

If you think they miss this flop often, then fire away. Remember that with more opponents, you need each one to fold considerably more to cbet it than if you were just against one opponent. ie, both of them folding is much less likely than one person folding.

Against one opponent I'm cbetting this flop often. Two opponents and I have to expect 78/89/9T/TJ/JQ/Tx/9x hands to be in there often enough that I can't get enough folds for a cbet to be profitable.
 
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