[25NL 6max] Missing river value or just careful?

Villain is a 60/0/0 fish over 40 hands. I raise for isolation from BTN with 87 and I'm lucky enough to flop a straight.

Not sure about the sizing of my bets and the call when he raises my river value bet. I only call because the board is paired and i'm concerned about a FH, but is it too nitty against this fish?

Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

CO: $18.05 (72.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $28.95 (115.8 bb)
SB: $13.45 (53.8 bb)
BB: $43.75 (175 bb)
MP: $96.95 (387.8 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with 8 7
MP calls $0.25, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 2 folds, MP calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) 6 9 T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.55) 9 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $3, MP calls $3

River: ($11.55) A (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6.25, MP raises to $12.50, Hero calls $6.25

Belgo, against this villain, I'm potting the flop and turn, getting it in on the river tbh. His range is so wide, comprising mainly of 2pr hands max and missed flush drws. I wanna extract max vaue here. There could be a case for pushing the turn, but we dont want to scare him off.

If he turns up with the boat, then thats tuff, but we need to max our value with this hand, as he does donkish things here more often than not.

I think play was fine. With the exception of the boat you have this. You got your value yet still protecting yourself. I see no reason to question your play here. If he does has his boat then it's like Jagsti said, tuff. But having second nuts in a situation like this is good enough for me.

His range is wide, as we already know. So when you decide to call in a situation like this, it must be because the range that he would call a raise with has at least 50% hands that beat yours.

I think it's fairly trivial to come up with more combos that he might plausibly raise the river with and both call a shove (it's another $10 in a $46, yes?) that you can beat, than that beat you.

Seriously, he might think AT is the nuts here. Your hand is vastly under-represented. Not to mention K9, Q9, J9, 98, 97. And A6. Or even AK. None of these hands are folding, and they make up a lot more combos than A9, T9 and 96.

If stacks were very deep and our opponent was good, then calling would have been the correct play. But here, I think it's a trivial shove (borderline fist-pump) and then we hate poker and life when he shows up with the boat.

I forgot about the sets (66, 99, TT and AA) that beat us. Still, the combos are on our side.

Thanks for the analysis, Fredrik. Very thoughful as always.

F Paulsson said:

Your hand is vastly under-represented.

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My hand is under-represented? I've been raising and betting all 3 streets! Although the preflop raise probably disguises my hand as fishy villain probably can't imaging raising 87 from the BTN.

The thing that bothered me is that his aggression is so low (it's actually 0.8, not 0 as stated above) that when he raises the river it means he believes he has a monster. Problem is: what does he consider a monster?

Well, turns out he has a pretty wide definition of what a monster is. And I need to get a better model of fishes in my head to get full value from that kind of hands.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Djuro85 shows [9d Qs] three of a kind, Nines
BelgoSuisse shows [8h 7d] a straight, Ten high
BelgoSuisse wins the pot ($34.75) with a straight, Ten high

by underrepresented, i think he means that your hand is incredibly disguised. Villain will have you on a much weaker holding than a flopped straight here, so 2 pair/trips etc are probably the nuts in villains eyes.

i'd shove this absolutely all day vs a fish. his river raising/calling range is so wide and i bet you see a fh here <5% of the time given his pf play. 60/0 is showing up with garbage like trips/2 pair here so often.

Jagsti said:

His range is so wide, comprising mainly of 2pr hands max and missed flush drws.

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I don't think this fish is ever bluff raising a missed flush draw. It's already a miracle that he found the raise button which must have been quite dusty from not being use for so long.

bubbasbestbabe said:

If he does has his boat then it's like Jagsti said, tuff. But having second nuts in a situation like this is good enough for me.

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Just to be clear, i never ever considered folding as an option. With his min-raise I'm getting incredible pot odds considering the strength of my hand versus his range.

feitr said:

by underrepresented, i think he means that your hand is incredibly disguised. Villain will have you on a much weaker holding than a flopped straight here, so 2 pair/trips etc are probably the nuts in villains eyes.

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yeah, he actually commented in the chat box later on that he was putting me on AK, JJ+ or something like that. Which is probably the only hands he has ever raised.

EDIT: Directed at your post before your last.

But a 60/0/0 fish isn't going to know how to play a fh any better than a hand like trips. Both will probably trigger an orgasm and hit the min raise button. I don't think you can comprehend just how disguised yoru hand is to the villain. The pf raise is going to make this absolutely impossible for a fish to put you on 87, since they arent' going to understand position/range very well.

You don't have to worry about villain's range for calling river bets, because it is 100% of villain's river raising range. A fish that min raises the river will NEVER fold to a shove. Tho i do agree with you (and disagree with jag) about missed flush draws being in his range. a 60/0/0 player is never in a million years going to try to min raise bluff the river w/ a missed draw.

anyways, given the fact that villain is a 60 pf, the times villain actually has any pp here is very small, and the times that villain actually has a set (fh) here is absolutely minute. Villain clearly does not know how to play any streets (could you play this hand worse?) and slowplayed or rivered 2 pair/slow played trips constitutes most of villain's range.

This is such an easy shove imo...if villain was tighter preflop then maybe you have an argument, but you have so many more combos of 2 pair/9x hands than any fh here. pps are just such a tiny portion of villain's pf range and when you adjust for the odds of hitting a set...it just is hardly even going to be the case.

I agree. I lost $10 of value on that hand. In retrospect it was an easy shove indeed.

BelgoSuisse said:

yeah, he actually commented in the chat box later on that he was putting me on AK, JJ+ or something like that. Which is probably the only hands he has ever raised.

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Right, I don't mean that you have represented a "weak" hand, only that your hand is much, much stronger than it "has" to be given the line you have taken.

Bet more everywhere! Then you don't have to worry about getting raised on a weird river, and you get full value from draws and other worse hands.