25NL 6max KK vs 2 Villains flat calling flop bet

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joosebox is 27/10/1.5
Julian is 12/9/1.2

I have been 18/17/2

Table 'Aneas V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: PiS.Juliam ($23 in chips)
Seat 2: Johnsons300 ($16.85 in chips)
Seat 3: wildsparks ($11.95 in chips)
Seat 4: bw07507 ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 5: joosebox ($42.90 in chips)
Seat 6: sittingtight ($25.50 in chips)
sittingtight: posts small blind $0.10
PiS.Juliam: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bw07507 [Kc Ks]
Johnsons300: folds
wildsparks: calls $0.25
bw07507: raises $0.95 to $1.20
joosebox: calls $1.20
sittingtight: folds
PiS.Juliam: calls $0.95
wildsparks: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 7s 3c]
PiS.Juliam: checks
bw07507: bets $2.80
joosebox: calls $2.80
PiS.Juliam: calls $2.80
*** TURN *** [8d 7s 3c] [Js]
PiS.Juliam: checks
bw07507: ?
 
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Not the greatest turn. OOP it's even worse...I think I bet/fold this turn and if called I'm checking most rivers. Probably folding if I check riv and they put in a bet.
 
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Well this hand isnt looking as great as it once did. I dont think throwing out another bet hear really makes sense, the pot is at 12.25 and you dont want to lose a big pot here, i dont see how you can win a big one however. Since the flop was rainbow no flush draws called you obviously, the J would have given the top straight draw a straight, hard to see anyone calling with 96 or 56 preflop, although not impossible.

If there was one caller I would say take another shot but since two people called you have to think one of them either slowplayed a set or caught their straight. AA or QQ would probably raise pf, JJ maybe not but he has a set now, 10 10 you have beat and may be calling here but I do not like your overall chances. You have been raising a lot so that may be why you got two callers but that is not a great board you are looking at. I would check and see what happens and be willing to lay down my Kings.
 
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The problem I have with betting is that 1) two people called they probably arent both calling with top pair, 2) the pot is $12 so to bet you have to think at least 6, and that looks very weak. Do you want to make a weak bet for a third of your stack if you are going to fold/check any bets/calls. I just dont like two callers on the flop bet and the J can only hurt you.
 
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I like the check too, you got called in 2 spots on the flop, by one really tight player and joosbox. The pots getting big and you dont have position, and only 1 pair, with all deepstacks in the hand. I'd probably check behind for pot control,
 
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What's so scary about the turn guys? It's only bad if one of them has 9 10. 10 9 makes sense I suppose, some players like to mix it up and call with these types of hands, I could see Joosebox calling in position with 10 9 suited. Still there's no real reason to think we don't have the best hand on the turn so I'd bet 3/4th pot and probably fold to a shove.
 
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Well I am worried because 2 people called. Not saying the J did it but what hands can they have that they keep calling with. risking 9 more dollars here with one pair is very risky and chances are given they both called that one has something here. I would agree if one of them called, but both? I just think they hand is yelling either set or straight. What could they possibly have that you are beating? TT? A8? I just dont see how the second guy flat calls without set or straight.
 
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