[25nl 6max] Was I Gambling here?

TheseNutsWin

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Hey guys can you tell me if i made a good call here or was i gambling?
1. i know majority of you raises with pocket 7s pre flop i decided to limp in here..
2. my flop reraise should have probably be bigger right?
3. I decided to call because something wasnt right about his betting here and figured my pocket 7s could still be good ..

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($14.65)
MP ($17.75)
Hero (Button) ($14.15)
SB ($16.15)
BB ($9.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7
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, 7
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UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.25) 6
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, 3
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, 2
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(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.25

Turn: ($5.25) 8
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(2 players)
UTG bets $12.40 (All-In), Hero calls $11.90 (All-In)

River: ($29.05) 4
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $29.05 | Rake: $1.40
 
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I would say that was a bit of a gamble. I'm not sure about the outcome. Did you win? If so, good play.
 
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I dont see it as much "gambling" as I do a week play.
As you mentioned a raise should have been made with the 77 pre flop.
A larger one made post flop.
I disagree with housebreakers comment. The end result doesnt determin if its a good play.
 
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Hey guys can you tell me if i made a good call here or was i gambling?
1. i know majority of you raises with pocket 7s pre flop i decided to limp in here..
2. my flop reraise should have probably be bigger right?
3. I decided to call because something wasnt right about his betting here and figured my pocket 7s could still be good ..

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($14.65)
MP ($17.75)
Hero (Button) ($14.15)
SB ($16.15)
BB ($9.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7
spade.gif
, 7
diamond.gif

UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.25) 6
spade.gif
, 3
heart.gif
, 2
diamond.gif
(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.25

Turn: ($5.25) 8
diamond.gif
(2 players)
UTG bets $12.40 (All-In), Hero calls $11.90 (All-In)

River: ($29.05) 4
heart.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $29.05 | Rake: $1.40

Hey 'Thesenutswin', just to remind you, were trying to tidy up the HA threads so you may find you get better responses if you follow these guidelines.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/thread-titles-130776/

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With regards to the hand. Why are you limping pf?

On the flop why are you re-raising? What range of hands do you think UTG is limping with pf, then bet/calls flop and pushes turn?

Is he capable of limping with 88+, 22,33,66?

Do you think it's worth calling shove on turn in a limped pf pot?

It's really difficult for us to answer any of these questions, without stats/reads. But fwiw, I never go broke in a limped pf pot with an overpair.
 
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Hey 'Thesenutswin', just to remind you, were trying to tidy up the HA threads so you may find you get better responses if you follow these guidelines.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/thread-titles-130776/

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/hand-analysis-posting-guidelines-87481/


With regards to the hand. Why are you limping pf?

On the flop why are you re-raising? What range of hands do you think UTG is limping with pf, then bet/calls flop and pushes turn?

Is he capable of limping with 88+, 22,33,66?

Do you think it's worth calling shove on turn in a limped pf pot?

It's really difficult for us to answer any of these questions, without stats/reads. But fwiw, I never go broke in a limped pf pot with an overpair.

Thanks guys.. To be honest with you it was my 4th hand on the table i just joined so i had no reads and no stats on the opponents. But somehow i did not think this guy had anything. I figured if he limped in with something like 76 or A6s, then i`m a favorite here I wasn't really thinking he had 32 and the only thing that i was worried about was 54 or 22, 33 and 66. I figured that since the board has no flush draws and there is so many players the 54 would probably slow play it here(although i might be mistaken) Then, i figured PPs would be raised preflop so i doubt someone has 222, or 333 and even less likely 666. When the 8th came on the turn and the villain shoved i started to think he might be bluffing or is holding Ad6d. I decided to call..



 
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If you limp with a small pair and the pot gos 5 ways, you really don't want to continue unless you make a set or better on the flop. But as played the turn shove does look kind of weak but you still could be behind because your hand isn't that strong. Also, your raise on the flop looks like a pretty good hand. Why would they try to bluff when the 8 hits the board? It would be a dumb bluff and with no read to make you believe they would make such a bad play, I just can't see making a call here.
 
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Preflop: Hero is Button with 7
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, 7
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UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25

At this point I raise. My standard open at $25NL 6-max was $1, so with two limpers I'm putting in $1.50 ($1 + a bb for each limper).

Ideally the SB, BB, and limpers fold and you take the pot right there.
Getting a call from one of the limpers isn't too bad either, as you have position.

Flop: ($1.25) 6
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, 3
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, 2
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(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.25

If I had reads on players then I wouldn't necessarily hate re-raising the flop. But you have a million people in that pot and a really weak over pair and no reads, so in this case I'm just not digging it.
Well... I say that. But I guess I pop it up a good percentage of the time. I make it *more* though. If he put $.75 in, he's always calling another $1.25 and we don't want to let him draw to something. Plus if he calls a bigger re-raise we know we have to shut down, as we're probably beat.

And on the turn, I'd just fold there. The pot size is too big for the strength of you hand, especially when there were so many prospectors in the pot.
 
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Thanks guys.. To be honest with you it was my 4th hand on the table i just joined so i had no reads and no stats on the opponents. But somehow i did not think this guy had anything. I figured if he limped in with something like 76 or A6s, then i`m a favorite here I wasn't really thinking he had 32 and the only thing that i was worried about was 54 or 22, 33 and 66. I figured that since the board has no flush draws and there is so many players the 54 would probably slow play it here(although i might be mistaken) Then, i figured PPs would be raised preflop so i doubt someone has 222, or 333 and even less likely 666. When the 8th came on the turn and the villain shoved i started to think he might be bluffing or is holding Ad6d. I decided to call..




OK, so you have pretty much no information on any villains and that sort of make the hand even easier to play out imo. I think you have just answered your own question here re 'Was I gambling?'. The only hands we beat are tp hands and bluffs. I personally find a fold on the turn nearly everytime I think, given what we know.
 
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That's an overbet. Given what you stood to gain, I don't like an all in there. I'm fine with betting, but not shoving. I'm even fine with calling, but I feel like the only hands that are going to call that bet have you beat.
 
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no way i would call here. utg limpin in 6handed, he could very well have 4 5 suited. thats the problem of limpin preflop, u fail to get a decent definition of what your opponents might have.

im not sure about ps, but on ft, usually when players at this lvl makes a massive overbet on the turn, not the flop/river mind u, but on the turn. they usually have the nuts, with a better draw showing on the board. either that or they have a great drawing hand, usually flush and straight draw, or top pair with a draw.

so based on my analysis, he either has A6 of diamonds, or 4 5 suited. u are drawin dead against a hand, and only a 60% favourite against A6 diamonds.
should save the money for a better spot imo.

interested to know the result of the hand though. please post the showdown, ty.
 
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Hey so here are the results guys, Thank you for all your input!!! He showed QJo and i took the pot... :)

*** SHOW DOWN ***
ElPibeDeOro: shows [Js Qh] (high card Queen)
gskowal: shows [7s 7d] (a pair of Sevens)
gskowal collected $27.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $29.05 | Rake $1.40
Board [6s 3h 2d 8d 4h]
Seat 1: ElPibeDeOro showed [Js Qh] and lost with high card Queen
Seat 2: machovic68 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: gskowal (button) showed [7s 7d] and won ($27.65) with a pair of Sevens
Seat 4: asfire666 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Lifegoals (big blind) folded on the Flop
 
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