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gman01

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Ok. I keep running into this situation in cash games. Looking at it now I should have folded. I don't know what it is i get caught up in these draws. too much tournament poker.

- $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 94.56 BB (VPIP: 14.16, PFR: 8.58, 3Bet Preflop: 1.22, hands: 239)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 14.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
BTN: 103.4 BB (VPIP: 25.32, PFR: 21.52, 3Bet Preflop: 11.84, Hands: 246)
Hero (SB): 195.6 BB
BB: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 7.05, 3Bet Preflop: 1.79, Hands: 162)
UTG: 115.28 BB (VPIP: 19.28, PFR: 13.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.81, Hands: 167)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7:club: 8:club:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.6 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 5:diamond: Q:club: 6:club:
Hero checks, UTG bets 7.12 BB, CO calls 7.12 BB, Hero raises to 25.32 BB, UTG raises to 112.28 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 86.96 BB

Turn: (241.68 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:

River: (241.68 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:

Hero shows 7:club: 8:club: (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens) (Pre 49%, Flop 40%, Turn 32%)
UTG shows 6:heart: 6:diamond: (Full House, Sixes full of Queens) (Pre 51%, Flop 60%, Turn 68%)
UTG wins 229.68 BB
 
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Fold pre-flop. This hand isn't going to be profitable OOP against two regulars in your game. If you can play this hand profitably, then you should be playing much higher stakes.

If there wasn't the call on the flop, I like the CR. Now getting a great price, I'd lean towards call. It's not some big mistake to CR and get it in with this equity, but with the straight draw, you have reasonable implied odds in a spot like this. The flush draw is a bonus, but usually won't carry the same implied odds. People see a flush much more often than a straight. It's nice to try and spike and keep the variance lower and allow yourself some other options on later streets depending on how the hand goes down on the turn.
 
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I think preflop is fine given immediate and implied odds. Against two fairly deep stacks calling here with mid pp's or suited connectors is super standard especially if you back your post flop game.

I much prefer x/c flop, but as played after you put in the $6 you have to call the all in. Check raise folding here would be terrible.

Again much prefer check calling.
 
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I think preflop is fine given immediate and implied odds. Against two fairly deep stacks calling here with mid pp's or suited connectors is super standard especially if you back your post flop game.

I much prefer x/c flop, but as played after you put in the $6 you have to call the all in. Check raise folding here would be terrible.

Again much prefer check calling.

You playing limit holdem? Immediate odds? :) I think this is a pretty common leak in most people's games. If one of these guys is a fish, then I like the call pre-flop. I don't think 98.798% of regulars will play this profitably against 2 other fairly tight regs OOP in their games. Just my 2 cents, but I've seen a lot of data on this also.

Also, he isn't deep. Effective stacks are 115bbs.
 
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Preflop is fine with implied odds IMO as deep as we are, flop I might play a little more cautiously because we are indeed so deep - if you're going to raise we have to pop it bigger to encourage both folds (our value here is fold equity) but I'm more than happy calling and peeling
 
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Fold pre. We are not deep like John A said eff stacks are 115bb's.
C/R looks fine. You lost a coin flip.
 
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Fold pre-. I'd be more inclined to call if I were going to have position, even without the discount from being in the blinds. The thing is that quite often when you don't completely whiff the flop, have a non-nut draw or some kind of pretty modest combo draw, Such hands are tricky enough to play IP, never mind OOP.
 
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thanks for the replies i appreciate it.
 
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