OMGITSOVER9K
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
so this happened earlier today. it's not that interesting honestly but I found myself thinking about options and wanted to get my thoughts into a written format, so here we are!
so we're BvB vs a nit-reg and he opens, standard right?
PokerStars - £0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
SB: £42.09 (VPIP: 16.18, PFR: 11.03, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 139)
Hero (BB): £27.93
SB posts SB £0.10, Hero posts BB £0.25
Pre Flop: (pot: £0.35) Hero has 3h 3d
fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to £0.75, Hero calls £0.50
we flat because he has a wide-ish range, we're BvB, we have a pair, we're better and in position so.. yeah, easy flat.
(3betting seems pointless, we get a bunch of folds but when we're flatted we either spew or give up too often imo)
Flop : (£1.50, 2 players) 8h 8c Ad
SB checks
so this is the confusing bit for me personally. our options are:
a) check and evaluate turn
b) bet, check turn and evaluate river
c) bet, bet turn and check river
d) bet, bet turn and bet river
so I'll start with d) since it should be the quickest. imo, when he x/c's 2 streets vs me on this board, his range is pretty strong. most run outs aren't going to change the board and if we see a broadway on the turn/river that makes him even less likely to fold A6o or whatever else might consider folding to a triple.
c)'s an ok option, assuming most of his range that x/c's flops are pairs and weak K highs and other stuff but the problem with this is that when we get to the river we're never ahead, so we're only folding out KK-99 on turns which is a pretty tight range.
ok, so to b). this is the option I went with, I personally don't like it now.. although the positives of are:
- we can win the pot right here a fair bit
- we get air to fold that has 9 outs vs us
- we get air to fold that can turn equity and semi-bluff us off the slightly best hand
- we can bink turns and win a bigger pot when we do (small advantage)
- we can check turns and check back rivers for SD (small advantage)
a) I like this now, thinking about it. we can call some turns and probably get to showdown vs a weakish range, and we don't tighten his flop range to strictly hands that crush us.. also when we call turn and he barrels river, we're pretty sure we're behind so that makes our river decisions a lot easier.
so, opinions?
so we're BvB vs a nit-reg and he opens, standard right?
PokerStars - £0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
SB: £42.09 (VPIP: 16.18, PFR: 11.03, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 139)
Hero (BB): £27.93
SB posts SB £0.10, Hero posts BB £0.25
Pre Flop: (pot: £0.35) Hero has 3h 3d
fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to £0.75, Hero calls £0.50
we flat because he has a wide-ish range, we're BvB, we have a pair, we're better and in position so.. yeah, easy flat.
(3betting seems pointless, we get a bunch of folds but when we're flatted we either spew or give up too often imo)
Flop : (£1.50, 2 players) 8h 8c Ad
SB checks
so this is the confusing bit for me personally. our options are:
a) check and evaluate turn
b) bet, check turn and evaluate river
c) bet, bet turn and check river
d) bet, bet turn and bet river
so I'll start with d) since it should be the quickest. imo, when he x/c's 2 streets vs me on this board, his range is pretty strong. most run outs aren't going to change the board and if we see a broadway on the turn/river that makes him even less likely to fold A6o or whatever else might consider folding to a triple.
c)'s an ok option, assuming most of his range that x/c's flops are pairs and weak K highs and other stuff but the problem with this is that when we get to the river we're never ahead, so we're only folding out KK-99 on turns which is a pretty tight range.
ok, so to b). this is the option I went with, I personally don't like it now.. although the positives of are:
- we can win the pot right here a fair bit
- we get air to fold that has 9 outs vs us
- we get air to fold that can turn equity and semi-bluff us off the slightly best hand
- we can bink turns and win a bigger pot when we do (small advantage)
- we can check turns and check back rivers for SD (small advantage)
a) I like this now, thinking about it. we can call some turns and probably get to showdown vs a weakish range, and we don't tighten his flop range to strictly hands that crush us.. also when we call turn and he barrels river, we're pretty sure we're behind so that makes our river decisions a lot easier.
so, opinions?