$25NL 6-max: Fish is sick of my sh1t, raise with mid pair?

Flotz has been living in isolation-raise town for the past 46 hands, and has started to play back at me. He's running 41/4/18% over that sample, and has a 3-bet % of 12.5% over that small sample. Those 3-bets are all limp/3-bets, and he's done it twice over the past 5-10 hands. Obviously, my image is about as terrible as it can get.

Get it in with mid-pair?

Seat 6 is the button
Seat 4: Flotz ( $27.28 USD )
Seat 6: Hero ( $29.28 USD )
Dealt to Hero [ ]
Flotz calls [$0.25 USD]
Sk33zyH0 folds
Hero raises [$1.45 USD]
BLee528 folds
marc_luciano folds
Flotz raises [$2.40 USD]
Hero calls [$1.20 USD]
Potsize = $5.65
** Dealing Flop ** [ ]
Flotz bets [$5.65 USD]
Hero raises [$22.60 USD]

Call down instead? Just fold & stop being retarded? Idk, I think I like it given that he's way tilted and thinks I'm extra retarded.

I think you played it with a lot of balls. Statisicly, you have over 70% chance of winning this hand. I would only be afraid of a potential flush on his side...

norbs286 said:

I think you played it with a lot of balls. Statisicly, you have over 70% chance of winning this hand. I would only be afraid of a potential flush on his side...

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While we appreciate input in the forums, spouting random numbers with no backing not only doesn't help, but it can harm some of the beginners who may read this.

c9: what's the purpose of your flop raise?

norbs286 said:

I think you played it with a lot of balls. Statisicly, you have over 70% chance of winning this hand. I would only be afraid of a potential flush on his side...

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Yes. Well, he's 69% against 1 random hand. But you can't count this as random. You have to give him a range and figure how good you are against his range. Since C9 thinks this guy is tilting, I do think his range would be broader than usual.

I think I don't really like the raise here. With your image you're certainly not folding any hand that beats you. And i can't really see a lot of worse hands calling you either.

On the plus side, you won't have a hard decision to make on the turn and you may increase further villain's frustration if he has to fold here.

Any alternate lines worth considering?

well, if you think he's on tilt bluff, calling is a lot more profitable.

BelgoSuisse said:

well, if you think he's on tilt bluff, calling is a lot more profitable.

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Boring.

c9h13no3 said:

Boring.

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ok. min-raise and call his shove.

BelgoSuisse said:

ok. min-raise and call his shove.

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I like that better ! Preflop or on the flop?

Also, I think I played this hand horribly. The large flop raise was like ugly to the fifth power.

If he's 3 betting you light, isn't 4betting preflop a decent alternative??? as opposed to shoving this flop?

switch0723 said:

If he's 3 betting you light, isn't 4betting preflop a decent alternative??? as opposed to shoving this flop?

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Well, since he's tilted, the whole point is that we want him to play back at us, and we want to take the action that correctly encourages him to do so.

I think in hindsight, I'd like a min-raise (or close to it) on the flop. The flop is unlikely to connect with his range of like any 2, and he'll probably shove a wide range if I re-open the betting.

Not sure if we should be clicking it back on the flop tho.

You're way over the fps line here. Flatting pf is ok, but raising the flop is so thin it's pointless. People are generally way less likely to play back by 3betting a raise on the flop then they are if you flat. Even flatting and calling down for stacks or whatever is pretty marginal.

As played I flat the flop and reevaluate the turn.

People are generally way less likely to play back by 3betting a raise on the flop

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See, I disagree with that. I get people shoving flops all the time with air when they're tired of me pushing them off of pots. I think the lightbulb kinda goes off in people's heads when I call them down for 2-3 streets, and they usually give up on the river. But they'll very often just jam their stack in if I make a raise.

FWIW, villain shoved in his last 3-4$ after I raised the flop. We got it all in, and he showed down and my nines held. I'm not sure if he thought his AK was good, or was just retarded. But either way, I think we could've gotten him to shove the vast majority of his range if I raise the flop to like 12$.