$25 PLO 6-max: Three Bet All In With Top Set On An Action Flop

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This was the second hand I played at this table so I cant say that I had acquired a read on anyone.

With that being said I initially tried to minimize the size of the pot, being out of position also played a role.

Looking back I find that I was a bit more aggressive than usual (was initially worried about the flop due to straight/flush draws) but after the re-raise (made by the BB on the flop) it was a push or fold situation for me.

My thought was that I was currently ahead (on the flop) but dodging a lot of bullets. My assumption was partly correct but take a look for yourself and see how it all played out.

Let me know your thoughts, how would you approach this hand? Did I make a standard play or should I look to make some adjustments? I greatly appreciate all input and thank everyone in advance for interacting with this thread.

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Bovada Hand TBL#10235460 OMAHA Pot Limit - 2015-11-21 22:12:51
Seat 1: Dealer ($32.18 in chips)
Seat 2: Small Blind [ME] ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 4: Big Blind ($80.70 in chips)
Seat 5: UTG ($23.37 in chips)
Seat 6: UTG+1 ($17.36 in chips)
Dealer : Set dealer/Bring in spot [1]
Small Blind [ME] : Ante/Small Blind $0.10
Big Blind : Big blind/Bring in $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealer : Card dealt to a spot [8d 8c 5d 3s]
Small Blind [ME] : Card dealt to a spot [Ah Ac 4c 2d]
Big Blind : Card dealt to a spot [Ks Jc 9s 9c]
UTG : Card dealt to a spot [2s Qd Qh Ad]
UTG+1 : Card dealt to a spot [6h 3h Kd 6c]
UTG : Raises $0.85 to $0.85
UTG+1 : Folds
Dealer : Calls $0.85
Small Blind [ME] : Calls $0.75
Big Blind : Calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [9h 8h As]
Small Blind [ME] : Checks
Big Blind : Checks
Seat re-join
UTG : Checks
Dealer : Bets $1.70
Small Blind [ME] : Calls $1.70
Big Blind : Raises $10.20 to $10.20
UTG : Folds
Dealer : Calls $8.50
Small Blind [ME] : All-in(raise) $22.20 to $23.90
Big Blind : All-in(raise) $69.65 to $79.85
Dealer : All-in $21.13
Big Blind : Return uncalled portion of bet $48.52
*** TURN *** [9h 8h As] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [9h 8h As Ts] 6♠
Dealer : Showdown [8d 8c 8h As Ts] (Three of a kind)
Small Blind [ME] : Showdown [Ah Ac 9h As Ts] (Three of a kind)
Big Blind : Showdown [Ks 9s As Ts 6s] (Flush)
Big Blind : Hand result-Side pot $14.53
Big Blind : Hand result $73.43
Dealer : Seat sit out
Small Blind [ME] : Seat sit out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($89.96)
Board [9h 8h As Ts 6s]
Seat+1: Dealer lost with Three of a kind [8d 8c 5d 3s-8d 8c 8h As Ts]
Seat+2: Small Blind lost with Three of a kind [Ah Ac 4c 2d-Ah Ac 9h As Ts]
Seat+4: Big Blind $87.96 with Flush [Ks Jc 9s 9c-Ks 9s As Ts 6s]
Seat+5: UTG Folded on the FLOP
Seat+6: UTG+1 Folded before the FLOP

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I dont even play plo but im sure preflop should be potted with AA suited. As played, is getting it in with the nuts ever bad?
 
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You're right, I probably should have considered a raise pre.

I agree with you that getting it in with the nuts is never bad but I guess I was worried due to the dangerous board.

I expected to see one if not both of them with open ended straight draws and/or flush draws.

My assumption was way off, we all flopped sets and the odds on the flop and turn were as follows.

FLOP
Dealer: 9%
SB: 76%
BB: 14%

TURN
Dealer: 2%
SB: 58%
BB: 39%

If either one/both of my opponents were holding straight or flush draws I feel my odds would be marginally less. I also feel most of the time that's what my opponents will have when action plays out like it did. I think its rare that you will get 3 people all in on the flop, all with sets. With that said I feel my odds would normally not be great in this situation, even with the nuts (on the flop).

That's just my take on it and why I asked if it was a solid move to shove considering that I had less then 3$ invested before shoving all in.

Appreciate the input @IPlay!
 
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No its not always necessary or even ideal to reraise pre with AA in Omaha. If you only do it with AA then everyone will know when you hit a set. AA pays off big when you cooler smaller sets and full houses so don't lose yourself that opportunity by making it abundantly clear what you have.

In the SB I would certainly not reraise AA. It's only ever needed if you have the opportunity to go all in pre.

As for the flop you should be happy to get it in every single time. Yes there are draws bigger than a set but it happens so rarely you should always be happy to get it in with top set on the flop.

The only nut hand which is extremely vulnerable in Omaha is the nut straight on a 2 tone board. You should always be happy to get it in on the flop with nut flush or top set nuts.

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No its not always necessary or even ideal to reraise pre with AA in Omaha. If you only do it with AA then everyone will know when you hit a set. AA pays off big when you cooler smaller sets and full houses so don't lose yourself that opportunity by making it abundantly clear what you have.

In the SB I would certainly not reraise AA. It's only ever needed if you have the opportunity to go all in pre.

As for the flop you should be happy to get it in every single time. Yes there are draws bigger than a set but it happens so rarely you should always be happy to get it in with top set on the flop.

The only nut hand which is extremely vulnerable in Omaha is the nut straight on a 2 tone board. You should always be happy to get it in on the flop with nut flush or top set nuts.

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Appreciate the insight @Thinker 145

I would have to say that I strongly agree with your analysis of the hand/situation.
 
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I wouldn't have reraised preflop, which you didnt. However, on the flop, I would have led or checked looking to check/raise right off the bat. But regardless, you were allin with top set on a rainbow, semi connected board at the flop. Good job there. Unfortunately the BS 4% runner runner flush hits. Take that spot every chance you can get. Gl.
 
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