$25 PL O 6-max: AAxx 4bet pf, multiway blech flop

CO is 24/18/5 over 40 hands, BB is 14/7/1 over 200 hands.

CO is (obv) pretty agg and tight.

BB has been tight and relatively passive, though he built his stack by going all in in a multiway pot on the flop w a wrap draw against overpairs (his stack has dwindled from $60ish to what it is now over the last 30 or 40 hands).

PF, I'm trying to get HU w CO and hopefully to get all in pf - no probs there I assume?

I'm not particularly happy w the flop, two toned and I don't have the suit, and coordinated if anyone's playing a middle/small wrap hand. With only $21 or $22 behind and the pot at $35, am I pot committed (i.e., can I/should I shove here given potsize)? What should I be thinking?

poker stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (UTG): $33.40
MP: $29.90
CO: $26.80
BTN: $56.70
SB: $27.30
BB: $37.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A:spade: 6:heart: K:diamond: A:heart:
Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, CO raises to $2.90, 2 folds, BB calls $2.65, Hero raises to $11.70, CO calls $8.80, BB calls $8.80

Flop: ($35.20) 6:club: 9:heart: 4:club: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero ???

(Insert typical "I haven't really played much PLO ever lole" disclaimer here)

Looks like a pretty decent flop for you that you're overestimating the danger of - I don't think there's a great deal in the ranges of two pretty tight players that's hit such a low flop hard given that it's been 4-bet preflop. Sure, flush draws are entirely possible and there's a chance you're behind to something like a T987cc monster draw but most of the time I would suspect you're ahead here as a set or two pair seems unlikely (most people don't tend to play most 99xx/66xx/44xx/96xx/etc hands in 4-bet pots, obviosuly).

I'd just look to get it in - obviously we're happy to jam preflop and I don't think the flop changes a great deal.

That is a great flop to shove on, most of the times bb is too nitty to be playing mid/low wraps and most likely has a high pair with high cards. CO range is obviously a little wider and we should expect him to have hit a monster draw some of the times but the majority, he misses. Nothing is wrong with getting folds here, so just get the money in and expect to be called with a flush draw, etc.

Cool, I'm just being results oriented then - I won a huge pot here when my hand held up 3 way all-in, but my equity on the flop is only 21% (BB = 8765, CO = AcKcKdx), hence the post.

slycbnew said:

Cool, I'm just being results oriented then - I won a huge pot here when my hand held up 3 way all-in, but my equity on the flop is only 21% (BB = 8765, CO = AcKcKdx), hence the post.

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That is actually the worst possible shape you can be in on the flop. Both had top of range.

This is a really annoying spot...

If you bet at all you are pretty much committed, but at the same time if you get any action at all you won't be in great shape. you've already pretty much exactly defined your hand preflop and it's doubtfull either villain is spewy with those stats. But with a $35 pot and $14 behind you really don't have any choice with that hand, go ahead and shove.


Both villains showing up with the top of their ranges like that is really unusual... I expect most of the time you will simply get a couple of folds.

I expect a much more common scenario here is that if you get it in at all it will be against only one villain and that villain will most likely only have either a straight or a flush draw but not both too often.