$25 NLHE Full Ring: TT Preflop OOP

$25 NL HE Full Ring: TT Preflop OOP

BB ($34.76)
UTG ($17.70)
UTG+1 ($63.88)
MP1 ($19.05)
MP2 ($26.83)
MP3 ($43.70)
CO ($13.24)
Button ($61.95)
Hero ($23.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ts, Td.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, CO raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4) 2c, 3d, Js (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.65, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Hero calls $1.65.

Turn: ($7.30) 2h (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($7.30) As (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: $7.30

I don't like the way I play this preflop. Would you play it any different?

Or do you see anything else you might do different?

Mamushi said:

BB ($34.76)
UTG ($17.70)
UTG+1 ($63.88)
MP1 ($19.05)
MP2 ($26.83)
MP3 ($43.70)
CO ($13.24)
Button ($61.95)
Hero ($23.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ts, Td.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, CO raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4) 2c, 3d, Js (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.65, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Hero calls $1.65.

Turn: ($7.30) 2h (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($7.30) As (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: $7.30

I don't like the way I play this preflop. Would you play it any different?

Or do you see anything else you might do different?

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Any stats on BB?

Yeah, he was something like a 50/15/8(af). The other two were bad tags.

you played pre-flop perfectly. I don't think you could 3bet with TT OOP and with the opponent being 50/15. He's not going to fold often with that stats. Cold call on the turn is somewhat marginal. It could be a fold there on the flop. On the turn, BB checked, so his range is either open ended straight draw or weak jack. I would definitely pot the river.

Preflop, BB isn't a huge concern with those stats, CO is the interesting player - TAG's don't usually flat from utg+1, does CO realize this, and is he simply trying to isolate utg+1 since the flat call is fishy (CO's raise is on the small side, which also smells fishy - are you sure they're really bad TAG's, or just bad players?).

I generally 3bet TT's oop - playing them oop kinda sucks. If we think CO is isolating, it makes a stronger case for 3betting.

Postflop looks standard to me - BB will frequently show up w a J here, but I think there are enough pairs and draws that we're ahead of to call the flop bet. I wouldn't be keen on calling a substantial river bet, but he doesn't make one, so...

Sly - you can be tight/agressive... and a fishy player Which is the case here.

Yeah I don't have any qualms with the post flop either, although i think my opponent screwed up; he showed up with J4s, but you got to wonder what he thought I had to not bet the river after two checks...


The UTG+1 had like a %80+ limp call so I was pretty sure he was coming along. This put me in a bad spot to 3-bet though, because if the other tag knew anything about gap theorem then I was a little behind both of their hands and OOP.

Really it seemed like 3-betting here was a bad move, I wonder if I should have just folded instead...

50/15 player floping top pair an c-c turn an ace on the river is never going to fold that.I wouldn't fold pre either co is just tring to still the limps in a crazy game vs a lpp which is no good.You coud 3 bet there(i wouldn't have).Your pretty much feeding the donks at the peting zoo after the flop,tring to dodge atc.It sucks but that is a hand in low limits,but rember it's not the hands as much as the sessions and the end results.Long run you will get the $$$$.

CO has only about half a stack so calling OOP for set mining is cutting it very close.

Unless you were planning to check raise virtualy any flop then the best thing to do here would be to 3-bet or fold preflop.

Stu_Ungar said:

CO has only about half a stack so calling OOP for set mining is cutting it very close.

Unless you were planning to check raise virtualy any flop then the best thing to do here would be to 3-bet or fold preflop.

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Calling doesnt have to mean set mining, our hand has alot more value then just set mining even/specialy if we just flatt.
By just calling where playing against alot weaker range then if we 3bet and get some extra chips from when villains cbets A9/77 type hands and then gives up turn.

But i do agree that 3betting/getting it it prf is better in this spot then calling just not for the reasons u stated.

3betting is gonna be higher varience and where gonna be fliping alot but flatting is gonna but us in alot of akward post flop spots and where gonna get bluffed on A-high boards and stuff.
And i just absolutly hate the thought of folding TT to a standard raise from a fish
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so yeah imo 3bet>call>fold

Given stack sizes, i 3bet preflop, fold if UTG+1 shoves and gladly get it in against CO.