$25 NLHE Full Ring: TPTK facing 3 bet on paired board

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 25/15/2

Hi guys just moved to 25NL and would like some feedback on the way I played this hand.


Hero(MP) $11.78 - VP:17 PFR:10 AF:3.4 W:21|20 STL:14|100 3B:4| CB:100|100 N:-10.22 hands:246

Villain(CO) $27.24 - VP:25 PFR:15 AF:2.0 W:0| STL:0|100 3B:0| CB:50|50 N:4.99 Hands:20



Pre Flop: Hero(MP) with A:heart: 9:heart:

P3(UTG) folds, Hero(MP) raises 0.75, P5(MP) folds, P6(LP) folds, Villain(CO) calls 0.75, P9(BTN) folds, P1(SB) calls 0.65, P2(BB) folds


Flop: T:spade: 9:club: T:heart: (3 players) $2.50 in pot

P1(SB) checks, Hero(MP) bets 1.25, Villain(CO) raises 4.28, P1(SB) folds, Hero??

Villain seems like a good player. He hasn't made any spewy moves during this session.

Without too much to go on, it's probably a fold for me. OESD might play it the same way, but so may JJ/QQ and Tx hands. Perhaps I'm too nitty, but you'd not know whether you'd have to improve with outs on turn/river or not.

Also thread stated TPTK, but you weren't holding that. Also try and play 100BB deep or top up to maximise your good hands.

does villian reallly 3bet a ten for value here? looks like a good bluff spot to me

runnerx289 said:

does villian reallly 3bet a ten for value here? looks like a good bluff spot to me

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At these limits "this good bluff spot" as you said, mostly isn't bluff at all, i played a lot of these limits games and i think the villain had the 10 or better pair like QQ, JJ, or is big draw, with this re raise you cant call with this hand, even if you dont have info on the villain play. So good fold.

If he's a good player as you said, he likely isn't flatting JJ-AA pre. He would be 3 betting. Lets think about the situation here....

Your OOP you just got re raised, flatting is bad because it makes plays on the turn awkward and difficult. Villains range has lots of 10's in it. Mostly 10Q, 10K, 10A, the occasional J10 and if he felt he had a post flop edge being Ip Maybe even 10 9 suited. His range really hammers us. It's not like the turn will even help, if your beat now, your beat then. All it can do is provide you with the false allusion you have the best hand.

Taking into account that your OOP, and taking into account his range, this is a fold move on. If he's a good player then he will continue to rep a 10 even if he doesn't have it and you will be forced to fold later after having committed more money into the pot. Mayb even fold pre, it's not a terrible open, from MP but A9 doesn't play all that well against hands that call.

This hand is really read dependent. As stated you should buy in full, but as played if you can't put any bluffs, OESDs or worse 9s in his range this is an easy fold. If villain is likely to bluff off two more streets than we can call him down, but that seems highly unlikely in this spot.

I like a shove here. Is he really raising with a 10 here? I doubt it. Because youre so short, he would just call so youd have pretty much a pot sized bet left on turn. It wouldnt be hard to get it in on the turn for him so raising makes no sense to me. I think his range are gutshots and oesd, worse 9s and all pairs up to JJ (Maybe including JJ maybe not as he might 3bet pre). He might sometimes even have complete garbage like AJ or something. For that reason I think you need to shove to protect your hand and hopefully win the pot straight out. Yes, sometimes he will have a 10 but I think its such a small part of his range here that a fold in my opinion is pretty terrible especially given stacks.

I've noticed that at 25NL - unlike at 10NL - villains are sometimes flatting pre with JJ/QQ for deception. But very much agree that 10x makes up a large part of his range here. As to why would villain raise with a 10 here? One reason is that it looks a bit like a bluff.