$25 NLHE Full Ring: Top set multiway

pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 8 players
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UTG: $33.46 (134 bb)
UTG+1: $22.44 (90 bb)
MP: $24.28 (97 bb)
MP+1: $23.34 (93 bb)
CO: $29.43 (118 bb)
BU (Hero): $44.54 (178 bb)
SB: $23.50 (94 bb)
BB: $30.03 (120 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T♦ T♠
UTG raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, 3 players fold, Hero calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.75) 5♥ 8♠ T♥ (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25, BB folds, UTG calls $1.25, UTG+1 folds

Turn: ($7.50) 7♣ (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $3.75, SB raises to $8.75, UTG folds, Hero calls $5

River: ($25) 2♦ (2 players)
SB bets $12.75 (all-in), Hero ?

No stats on SB

What size should I bet OTF OTT I'm now sure or should I check OTT and Don't call check-raise

Flop I would like to bet larger like 75% pot as I don't see you need to bet small to keep ranges wide in MWP and you can get called by many draws or overpairs. Same for turn

As played, I would just call check raise OTT and call river. SB could have lower sets / busted flush draws that play this way, apart from straight

siwanat99 said:

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat - https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/624y71R5q

UTG: $33.46 (134 bb)
UTG+1: $22.44 (90 bb)
MP: $24.28 (97 bb)
MP+1: $23.34 (93 bb)
CO: $29.43 (118 bb)
BU (Hero): $44.54 (178 bb)
SB: $23.50 (94 bb)
BB: $30.03 (120 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T♦ T♠
UTG raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, 3 players fold, Hero calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.75) 5♥ 8♠ T♥ (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25, BB folds, UTG calls $1.25, UTG+1 folds

Turn: ($7.50) 7♣ (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $3.75, SB raises to $8.75, UTG folds, Hero calls $5

River: ($25) 2♦ (2 players)
SB bets $12.75 (all-in), Hero ?

No stats on SB

What size should I bet OTF OTT I'm now sure or should I check OTT and Don't call check-raise

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The Preflop

Okay calling here, Squeezing can be very nasty versus EP if they elect to 4-bet us we are almost always folding, so I am okay of calling here more often than 3-betting.

the postflop

The Flop

Everyone checks and it comes to you on a very drawie-connected flop. Given that there are many players to speak, the board is heavy connected, our hand needs protection and players are weak enough to continue paying with their draws no matter price, I would go on the flop for 2/3 pot or 3/4 pot if not 100% pot: you bet less than 1/2 pot, thus, providing excellent odds for weak players to pursuit their draws.

The Turn

This 7 of clubs is not a good card for our range and it is really badder when SB elects to check-raise. Here we are now guessing/calling because we can be pretty much dead for SB's range. A 7x is not good for our range, a 6x, Jx maybe good maybe not, any hearts,
and almost all the rest of the deck is good for our range.

Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa

Preflop
Just calling against an UTG open is fine.

Flop
You need to put the hammer down here. This is a spot, where I exploitatively forget about my standard preset buttons and bet almost the size of the pot for value / protection.

Turn
Some straights came in, but you are still way ahead, and bet-calling is the right decision.

River
You have to make the call. The only sort of reasonable straight is J9s, and you beat anything other than a straight. He can have a worse set, two pair or a bluff. Whenever you can beat value, calling is mandatory. If you lose, it was just a cooler.

On the flop and turn you have to bet more, something like 75% or even overbet. You have nuts and have to defend against draws and get value from weakest hands (minor sets).

bet 3/4 on flop and turn
i like the call pf
as played call river.

Bet flop way more. On the turn you need to call because of the odds you're getting to boat up and win the remaining of your opponents stack. But if you don't boat up on the river, you should fold. Nearly no competent player is going to c/c MW on the flop for that amount and then c/r the turn w/ a set, 2 pair or draw. So you're looking at straights pretty much exclusively. That's the great thing about these stakes. Your opponent will narrow their range so small you can sometimes fold w/ big hands.

If they aren't competent, or are bad, they could have a wide enough second best range to justify calling.

John A said:

If they aren't competent, or are bad, they could have a wide enough second best range to justify calling.

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He was sitting with a broken stack, which a solid regular would never do. They almost always use auto top-up on PokerStars and especially at limits like this. So probably this was a fish or bad reg, which of course does not prevent him from having a straight.

Looking at it again I think, the river decision is very close. Hero kind of f... himself by that flop sizing, because he gave silly gutshots like 64s a price to stick around and try to suck out on him.

This is the main point in the hand, because if Hero go bigger, either the hand ends on the flop, or all the money goes in on the turn. And then there is not even a river decision to make.

siwanat99 said:

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat - https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/624y71R5q

UTG: $33.46 (134 bb)
UTG+1: $22.44 (90 bb)
MP: $24.28 (97 bb)
MP+1: $23.34 (93 bb)
CO: $29.43 (118 bb)
BU (Hero): $44.54 (178 bb)
SB: $23.50 (94 bb)
BB: $30.03 (120 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T♦ T♠
UTG raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, 3 players fold, Hero calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.75) 5♥ 8♠ T♥ (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25, BB folds, UTG calls $1.25, UTG+1 folds

Turn: ($7.50) 7♣ (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $3.75, SB raises to $8.75, UTG folds, Hero calls $5

River: ($25) 2♦ (2 players)
SB bets $12.75 (all-in), Hero ?

No stats on SB

What size should I bet OTF OTT I'm now sure or should I check OTT and Don't call check-raise

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I think on a coordinated board you need a much higher flop bet. I would say much closer to $3 than where you're at.

On the turn I would have checked for pot control. The 7 is likely to have helped one of opponents and you can call a turn bet and evaluate on the river. It is tough to lay down top set and you may be just paying someone off, but as played you are committing yourself to the pot. If you can find a fold on the river as played cudos to you! I would probably pay of the straight and reload

DancingNancie said:

I think on a coordinated board you need a much higher flop bet. I would say much closer to $3 than where you're at.

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I can even see going for an overbet here. Like 5$ or something, and then jamming all turns, if someone gives action. People get to hung up on balance and standard bet sizes. But its NLH, and who say, we can only overbet the river? 5 people saw this flop, so likely at least someone connected. And if they all fold, that is not the end of the world either. Then maybe they will view us as a maniac or bully, which can pay off in later hands.