$25 NLHE Full Ring: SC turns into top pair

Emperor IX

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$25 NL HE Full Ring: SC turns into top pair

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pokerstars Game #29142307295: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/06/08 16:15:48 ET
Table 'Hodios IV' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: HanneSobek ($4.95 in chips)
Seat 2: omgitsslave ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: BreweRonnie ($29.30 in chips)
Seat 4: betman666 ($22.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Emperor XIX ($33.25 in chips)
Seat 6: xdeGrootx ($8.75 in chips)
Seat 7: TrapJawHH ($23.05 in chips)
Seat 8: elektrochnik ($25 in chips)
Seat 9: THEGAMEISOVA ($12.95 in chips)
betman666: posts small blind $0.10
Emperor XIX: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Emperor XIX [6s 7s]
xdeGrootx: raises $0.50 to $0.75
TrapJawHH: calls $0.75
elektrochnik: folds
THEGAMEISOVA: folds
HanneSobek: folds
omgitsslave: folds
BreweRonnie: folds
betman666: folds
Emperor XIX: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [6d 4h 4d]
Emperor XIX: bets $1
xdeGrootx: calls $1
TrapJawHH: folds
*** TURN *** [6d 4h 4d] [2d]
Emperor XIX: ?

medium pocket pair? floating AK? Bet? Bet/fold? CC/CF?

I'm my standard 25/18/2.5 ish range

I promise to post results this time. I always forget then lose the history, lol
 
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You really need to bet a bit more on the flop if you're leading out there imo; pot is $2.35, so I probably lead $1.35 (ish). As it is $1 gave him odds to draw here for the most part so we don't really know. His stats appear to make him out as semi-tight/passive imo, so he's probably content calling along here. With a diamond on the turn now, I'd probably launch out a bet around $3.25 and fold to a raise. If he flats then I'm checking the river unless I luck into a 6.
 
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The UTG raiser only has 35Bbs, so calling pre-flop here with a SC is really bad. The times you flop two pair or better, or you flop a draw AND hit it by the river, even if you stack him every time you won't win enough to make up for all the times you miss. And the PFR has a wide enough raising range here where he's not guaranteed to stack every flop. Having only one caller before you doesn't give you enough implied odds to call here, imo.

Also, please try to use a converter, the favorite here at CC is stox:
http://www.stoxpoker.com/hand_history_converter/
 
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Anyone else have advice here?
 
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I just fold pre-flop.
Where OOP against a SS, our imitiate and implied odds dont justify a call here imo.
On the flop i bet more if i lead the flop witch isnt all that likly, i probably just check/fold the flop here cause i dont play SC to hit TPNK on a drawy board OOP multi way, its gonna set us up for some reverse implied odds spots.

On the turn im defenatly c/f or trying to get a free showdown.
His range is imo is alot of small-medium PPs,flushes that just got there and and big aces that floated the flop.
Almost none of thouse are folding to a bet execpted maybe AxXx with no diamond that dont have the guts to pull of a bluff on the turn after floading the flop.

Basicly the only hands we beat are his nothing hands so i dont think betting is gonna acomplish anything, where only folding out worse and getting called by better hands(you could argue that AdXx that floated the flop and 55/33 will give us value but im just not sure its a big enough part of his range)
 
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Fold preflop. The smaller the effective stack, the higher the value of pairs and big cards and the lower the value of small cards like 67s.

Never pet a burning dog.

Postflop, what's your reasoning for leading? Unless you have a read that they'll call with overs or something, all you're doing is shutting out the worse hands and getting called by better.

Keep your decisions simple. Fold small hands preflop unless there's obvious implied odds to be had. Don't donk without a very good reason.
 
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K I feel dumb enough to post results now. I check called turn for $3 and the river (an 8) went check check, and he had AKs

I bet because I still have this silly idea that I always need to throw out blocking bets. I'm getting less nitty but I'm trying to avoid getting bluffed for some reason :( I'll work on plugging that before I move back up to $25nl for good again (did it last year with good success there over a few thousand hands before being forced to withdraw)

This hand was working with the stake. My current br is at $100
 
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I bet because I still have this silly idea that I always need to throw out blocking bets. I'm getting less nitty but I'm trying to avoid getting bluffed for some reason :(
Against anyone good they will see right through that and start bluffing you. When I see someone donking medium hands like this I'm raising their leads all day with literally 100% of my range. You turn your hand face-up and unless you are doing this with a mix of monsters as well to protect you are just turning your hand face up to good hand-readers. You probably won't find too many at this level but as you move up that will get exploited a lot.
 
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Double barrel the blank (deuce) on the turn: standard fish line is to call with any ace or any over-cards (QTo, for ex.) on this type of dry board.
 
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