$25 NLHE Full Ring: QQ vs ??

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$25 NL HE Full Ring: QQ vs ??

poker stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 511654
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BB: $25.35
UTG: $10.00
UTG+1: $25.00
Hero (UTG+2): $28.65
MP1: $25.35
MP2: $47.70
CO: $13.85
BTN: $4.35
SB: $5.10

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+2 with Q :heart: Q :spade:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.75, 6 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.85) 7 :spade: 4 :heart: 6 :spade: (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3, UTG+1 raises to $8, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($19.85) T :spade: (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $9.25, Hero???
 
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Any reads/stats?
We beat nothing except JJ asuming villain isnt a total spaz.

The flush and straight got there, he calls a 3bet OOP so until he proves other wise i asume he set mines 3bet pot aswell (because people that call alot of 3bets OOP usualy suck and people that suck set mine no matter what) so i think there some sets in his range.
Most of the hands we where ahead of on the flop usualy slow down on this turn (88/99/JJ) and all his draws got there and he is gonna show us AA/KK just about as often as JJ.

I just fold. like i said we beat just about nothing and chances are we have no outs and if our flush is a out where not geting any more money from him if we hit so chasing the flush is just nasty from a reverse implied odds perspective.
I guess we could push it and add some As7/4/6/5/T, 5+pair stuff in his range but where still not doing so great against it.

Obvs any reads/stats would change alot how we should play this but against most people im folding here.

If we have a read that villain is aggro or c/r alot and c/r draws/small overpairs/weak TP i much rather get it in on the flop because there are so many action killers we need to dodge.
 
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Sorry. Villain was 30/20 but not many hands... He seemed pretty active but was winning pots w/ out showdown.
 
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Okay so, have to fold the turn.

Anyway to avoid this on the flop? I can't fold there. Should I have shoved on him there?

Do enough draws craise there to get it in?

I hated that call on the flop...
 
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Either shove or fold. I'm leaning more towards shove.
 
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Okay so, have to fold the turn.
I'm not sure I agree with that at all. Especially since you have the Qs.

I think shoving the flop is the better play, though. You'll get looked up by weaker PPs a lot (who think you have a flushdraw) and you'll get called by flushdraws a bunch too and some other weird hands.

What was your reason for just calling the flop?
 
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What was your reason for just calling the flop?

I couldn't figure out anything else to do. I just thought folding was sooooo weak but imagined that every time I shove he shows me a set. I just got stuck.
 
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I couldn't figure out anything else to do. I just thought folding was sooooo weak but imagined that every time I shove he shows me a set. I just got stuck.
A piece of advice, if your confused fold or raise.
Both plays are less likely to be a mistake then a call imo.
 
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Hero actually shoves the turn and gets called by villain w/ 66...
 
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