$25 NLHE Full Ring: KK on dry flop facing psb

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 21/10/1.5

PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 90 BB
UTG: 97.6 BB
UTG+1: 278.12 BB
MP: 101 BB
Hero (MP+1): 149.4 BB
CO: 317.56 BB
BTN: 37.04 BB
SB: 314.32 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:spade: K:heart:

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5.4 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 5 BB, fold, UTG+1 calls 4.4 BB

Flop: (17.2 BB, 3 players) 9:club: J:diamond: 5:spade:
SB bets 17.2 BB, fold, Hero calls 17.2 BB

Turn: (51.6 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
SB bets 51.6 BB, ???
 
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Villain aggro to b betting draws???

If vill is good he knows u got prem pp .. fold
 
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Something that bugs me is vills size tho... he either wants value or pretending he got somethint so make sure u watch this guy... there could b money here to b made
 
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My biggest fear was his bet sizing and the fact that we started 150bb deep and I have not seen him get too crazy yet. If we call on turn we should be calling river then? What rivers can we fold after calling turn? I feel like calling 51.6bb here pretty much means I am putting in the remaining 75bb in on river almost always. Am I pot committed on river if I call this turn?
 
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True thinking ahead ur best to fold i guess

But one thing tho same bet size usually means weakness its a poker tell
 
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i don't think the data here provide enough information to make the decision.
did you have a read on that player, how he play the top pair type of hands on this board texture?

and what his river tendency?

by my reads I think you are still ahead at this situation.
I think AJ, KJs still in his range...even there are set, stra8 possible, I still think it is a profitable to continue, but it depends on your read or data.
 
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Don't have any reads like that, this is bovada so information is very limited(Probably 40 or less hands) and I didn't see him make any PSBs like this in previous hands. My only read was that he is a slightly loose/passive so what range is he calling 5bbs pre from the SB with that takes this line?

JJ,99,55,AJs,QTs,J9s,AJo This seems about right but does he bet pot and want to stack off with TPTK here? Does he think worse then AJ is calling on this turn? I should add my image is pretty tight but who knows if he is paying attention.

If he does play TPTK like this I have 52% equity against his range but if he doesn't I am at 30% and since I will have to stack off on rivers, I like folding this turn.
 
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passive is a decent excuse to fold.
 
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donk bet %? i would raise flop , if he is a bad player he comes with J high:jd4:
 
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Don't have any reads like that, this is bovada so information is very limited(Probably 40 or less hands) and I didn't see him make any PSBs like this in previous hands. My only read was that he is a slightly loose/passive so what range is he calling 5bbs pre from the SB with that takes this line?

JJ,99,55,AJs,QTs,J9s,AJo This seems about right but does he bet pot and want to stack off with TPTK here? Does he think worse then AJ is calling on this turn? I should add my image is pretty tight but who knows if he is paying attention.

If he does play TPTK like this I have 52% equity against his range but if he doesn't I am at 30% and since I will have to stack off on rivers, I like folding this turn.

think he definitely have T9s some middle pair in his range- he double barrels because he is trying to chase something like TT away, and make bad price for AQ, AK since you ISO him.

therefore your winning chance is 56% not 54%
but I don't know his river tendency, if he is honest in river, I would call, the most tough thing is , how he will play river, AF1.5 does not mean much here.



as I said, It is depends on your read. folding is fine, if you think his range is tighter.:D
 
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I'd reluctantly fold the turn and watch this guy like a hawk every hand he plays.
This sort of shows why it makes a ton of sense to watch the hands you aren't involved in on sites like this.
I had a sweat with a better player on Bovada recently who was watching other hands calling out things like "the 4 seat missed value on the river he's weak".
 
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Love this site for things like this.

If you re-raise the flop bet, do you fold if he comes over the top?

I think this shows things I tend to do and a weakness of mine, what are you doing the rest of the hand. I feel like you have to decide what he has on the flot bet. He bet pot right? So it feels like he's chasing something away or drawing. Only bad things would be pocket 99, JJ.

Though the blind size matters, if this is .01/.02 ring, people will call just about any raise preflop. In which case I could see 9/j calling preflop as well.

These are the hands that burn me though, because I'd be likely to shove either on the flop or after thinking he caught a J or was drawing.
 
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Against a solid player I think I find a fold here. You can't look at this as just a 50bb bet. You've got about 130bb behind and the next bets going to be 100 which is more than you have left so if you call the 50 you're in for the rest.
Against a poor player who might overplay AJ call the turn and let him put the rest in himself. Big pairs give implied odds, they don't get them.
 
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I think I would have raised on the flop. Lots of the lead outs into raised pots are donk bets and I like to find out early. However, if he comes over the top we are in another tough spot. As played I think I would also fold here. With the deep stacks it will cost you alot to continue into the hand. Seems likely he has something along the lines of 2pr or a set. 2pr seems more likely given the lead on the flop. I think it's a good fold.
 
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