$25 NLHE Full Ring: JJ in multiway 3bet pot

PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 74.2 BB
MP: 139.08 BB
Hero (MP+1): 210.72 BB
CO: 98.6 BB
BTN: 112.8 BB
SB: 117.12 BB
BB: 116.76 BB
UTG: 183.16 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J:heart: J:diamond:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 14.8 BB, UTG calls 13.8 BB, Hero calls 9.4 BB

Flop: (44.8 BB, 3 players) 8:spade: 8:heart: 2:heart:
BB checks, UTG bets 28.64 BB, Hero calls 28.64 BB, BB calls 28.64 BB

Turn: (130.72 BB, 3 players) 9:club:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (130.72 BB, 3 players) 8:club:
BB bets 73.32 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 73.32 BB


BB was kind of loose aggressive but not 3 betting much pre

IPlay said:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 74.2 BB
MP: 139.08 BB
Hero (MP+1): 210.72 BB
CO: 98.6 BB
BTN: 112.8 BB
SB: 117.12 BB
BB: 116.76 BB
UTG: 183.16 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J<font color='red'>♥</font> J<font color='red'>♦</font>

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 14.8 BB, UTG calls 13.8 BB, Hero calls 9.4 BB

Flop: (44.8 BB, 3 players) 8<font color='black'>♠</font> 8<font color='red'>♥</font> 2<font color='red'>♥</font>
BB checks, UTG bets 28.64 BB, Hero calls 28.64 BB, BB calls 28.64 BB

Turn: (130.72 BB, 3 players) 9<font color='black'>♣</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (130.72 BB, 3 players) 8<font color='black'>♣</font>
BB bets 73.32 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 73.32 BB


BB was kind of loose aggressive but not 3 betting much pre

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Pretty sure I fold this river... I don't think villain has too many bluffs in his range, esp when he isn't 3 betting much. Your ahead of like TT and busted flush draws, although I don't think villains jamming TT or busted draws multi way in a 3b here. Nearly 3:1 on a call though maybe it is just a crying call... but I really don't like it or feel comfortable. I'm expecting 99, QQ+, some 8Xs type hands a bunch.

What do you put villain on when he 3 bets pre and then check calls this flop? He takes a very strange line here.

I call as well, villains range is really polarized to bluffs with a three bet range for a LAG that can include many pp lower than JJ, AQs+ even some KJs+. His story with the 3 bet oop then passive play on a board that he should be continuing on leaves me with a weird feeling. This feels like the flush draw or small pair that now feels a bet is his best chance. Also with utg folding and his range intersecting with villains range, with his limp call of a 3bet, and the fact that we need to be right 25ish% of the time, I cant get away.

What were your thoughts for the turn check? After both players had shown some aggression and slowing down could a shove there have taken it down? What ranges did you have them on that different rivers would have changed your call fold to the shove?

What if we shove turn??

Btw iplay this is like my qq hand

his % of a 5x open 3bet is 3% range, fold there, too much 5x opening, just open 3x