$25 NLHE Full Ring: Can it be another ways to play?

Romario2223

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pokerstars Zoom Hand #157998444187: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2016/09/01 2:46:28 MSK [2016/08/31 19:46:28 ET]
Table 'Whirlpool' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Ajuakus ($25.62 in chips)
Seat 2: bodybuilderb ($37.38 in chips)
Seat 3: lewisboy ($155.19 in chips)
Seat 4: Sinawipa ($52.75 in chips)
Seat 5: OLKOG ($28.89 in chips)
Seat 6: surfer2187 ($63.09 in chips)
Seat 7: Vincible777 ($40.97 in chips)
Seat 8: Romario2223 ($16.57 in chips)
Seat 9: KOORA3 ($35.72 in chips)
bodybuilderb: posts small blind $0.10
lewisboy: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Romario2223 [Qd Qh]
Sinawipa: folds
OLKOG: folds
surfer2187: folds
Vincible777: folds
Romario2223: raises $0.75 to $1
KOORA3: folds
Ajuakus: folds
bodybuilderb: calls $0.90
lewisboy: raises $3 to $4
Romario2223: calls $3
bodybuilderb: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Th Js 3d]
bodybuilderb: checks
lewisboy: checks
Romario2223: bets $5.73
bodybuilderb: folds
lewisboy: raises $145.46 to $151.19 and is all-in
Romario2223: calls $6.84 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($138.62) returned to lewisboy
*** TURN *** [Th Js 3d] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [Th Js 3d 6h] [2h]
Results:
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lewisboy: shows [Ah Ks] (high card Ace)
Romario2223: shows [Qd Qh] (a pair of Queens)
Romario2223 collected $35.47 from pot
 
John A

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You only start with 65 BBs, you barely have over a pot sized flop bet. What else did you want to do with this hand on other streets?

I have something else to say, but not sure how to say it kindly so I'll skip it.
 
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I would have shoved preflop
 
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You only start with 65 BBs, you barely have over a pot sized flop bet. What else did you want to do with this hand on other streets?

I have something else to say, but not sure how to say it kindly so I'll skip it.

I've got you John.

John loves you very much and thinks you absolutely should be playing 25nl zoom on Pokerstars around 7pm each night, please.
 
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25NL QQ Hand Review

Firstly, @seventhsense - that was hilarious, good banter! :p

Ok ok, serious time now.

Pre-flop: Firstly, please turn auto-rebuy on! It's essential, you want to have everyone at the table covered, if possible, so you can win the maximum chips from your big hands. If you don't have a big enough bankroll (at least $250) move down in stakes and build one up. You play with very awkward stack sizes and it's simple to correct.
Raising this to 4x is fine, as long as you raise every hand that you want to raise to 4x and don't use different sizes for weaker hands. You get a caller (SB), who'll probably have a fairly tight calling range because of his position. Let's give the SB a range of 66-JJ, AQo, A4s-A5s, A9s-AQs, KJs+ and JTs. Seems realistic.
Now, we get squeezed here by the BB, who has a HUGE stack. Because of the sheer size of his stack, I'm thinking immediately he's either a pretty decent player, or he's literally been running on the sun. He probably sees you as a weak player (because you don't have a full stack) and is trying to isolate you. Because of this, I think he can actually have a pretty wide 3-betting range here. Let's go with TT+, AKo, ATs+ and KQs.
Against a range like that, even if you tighten it up somewhat, you should certainly shove pre-flop. Calling is not a great idea because you're going to have to fold on any Axx or Kxx flop, because you're against two players, so you'll have put in 25% of your stack just to fold 33% of the time. QQ is not a hand you want to be in a multi-way pot with, it plays best HU due to it's vulnerability. This is a clear-as-crystal shove. The SB calls too, and probably calls with his whole range (except maybe 66, 77 and AQo) because he's priced in.


Flop: It's an OK flop for you, you lose to any pair in the BBs range, but you beat his overcards and stuff like AJ, AT. Now, I'd expect the BB to fire a c-bet at this after the SB checks. When he checks back, it's one of two things. He has AK, AQ, or he has a set. I don't think he ever checks back KK+, AJ or KQ here.
I think we have to bet this. I quite like a small bet to get value from a hand like AT or AJ and also to give hands like AK or KQ the impression we're weak, and will fold to a shove, because those hands are on draws. I bet about $4-$4.50 with a plan to shove any turn that isn't an A or a K. When we do get shoved on, I think we're often beat by TT or JJ, but he will do this with KQ or AK just as much. We call this for sure. since we already have half our stack committed.

There's no point me making a prediction, because I accidentally looked and saw what he had. But I probably would have gone with that based on the action.
 
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