This is a discussion on $25 NLHE Full Ring: I am trying not to spam here but can't help it. Easy 4bet shove turn, or call? within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; partypoker - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
MP+2: $19.30 (VPIP: 15.09, PFR: 4.45, 3Bet Preflop: 3.08, Hands: 519)
CO: $22.76 (VPIP:
Yeh cant fold turn even when we are behind we can still make boat
Smaller sets we will crush and 2pairs.
If we had bottom set perhaps could think about the fold
1st November 2015, 12:03 AM
Originally Posted by Aces2w1n
Yeh tough to put him on qt except him limping.
Villain is a 24/2 over 500+ hands, and just called pre (didn't limp).
1st November 2015, 12:26 AM
re: Poker & $25 NLHE Full Ring: I am trying not to spam here but can't help it. Easy 4bet shove turn, or call?
Brutal but I think you were completely correct.
He wakes up and starts raising on the turn with AJ98 on the board. Okay, it could be QT. Called the river with a gut shot if it is. Copied from excellent comment above, J9, A9, J8, 88, 99, QT, T7s are also possible. I'm not sure I agree that a guy with 24% VPIP who called a pre-flop raise could reasonably have T7 or J8, but the others are all highly realistic, and all potentially fit with his behavior. You're way ahead of the range. You've got a set of aces, mild risk, excellent chance that he has a hand that will call an all-in and lose.
This comment not intended to be a claim of expertise, but you look right to me.
1st November 2015, 8:10 AM
This is just a bad run out. I think you played the hand ok. Obviously you cannot fold to the min raise ever. I probably would have just smooth called the min raise on the turn, but I am slightly more passive than you. I don't think moving all in was a bad play because there are lots of hands that the villain could have given his actions. You are ahead of a good number of his possible holdings and even when you are behind you have a decent shot to improve to a full house. However, my biggest concern would be that you have showed strength through the entire hand so far and he still min raised on the turn KNOWING that you cannot fold with those pot odds. He could take this line with sets and straights, but I don't think he would with just 2 pair or a straight draw on a fairly coordinated board. If he does have a set, there is no real danger in seeing the river as he would only have 1 out. If he already has a made straight, he will continue his current line and bet the river. Being able to re-evaluate after the T hits the river may have saved you a little money.