$25 NLHE Full Ring: Is this an easy fold??

$25 NL HE Full Ring: Is this an easy fold??

Im more of a trny player and just wanted to see what u guys thought ??

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($54.06)
UTG ($49.78)
UTG+1 ($59.86)
MP1 ($27.58)
MP2 ($19.79)
MP3 ($20.23)
CO ($34.63)
Button ($15.28)
SB ($25.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K , 8
2 folds, MP1 bets $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75, 3 folds, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($3) J , 10 , 7 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50, SB raises to $4.50, Hero ??????????

You have really good equity against everything but AcXc hands. That said I don't like raising. I just call but I am willing to get AI if there is crazy action before it gets back to me against most opponents. If MP1 and 2 both fold, I'd be looking to take the pot away on lots of turn cards since we'll now have position.

Should be an easy fold in a tourney too.

TriggaLos said:

Should be an easy fold in a tourney too.

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depending on what stage of the trny or stack sizes and oppenents.

intresting replies so far keep em coming

fold pre, as played I like shoving this, just because it may buy us a couple outs once in a while if MP1 or MP2 has KQ and was betting/calling with an open-ender or something (i.e. SB has AJ, MP1 folds KQ and we can win on a King).

I would say, call if you believe either MP1 or MP2 will call (but not shove) and fold if you believe you'll be left HU with the SB. Because I don't see that good equity hillbilly talks about when you're HU with SB.

If you shove you'll end up AI most likely, then ask yourself do you want to be all in with a flush draw + inside straight draw? (I can't consider K an out here really. SB may have JK, JA or more likely J10, 89)

If either MP1 or 2 shoves and the SB calls we've almost certainly got enough equity to call the shove. If MP1 and/or 2 calls we've again got enough equity. If MP1 and 2 folds, we've got decent equity AND we now have position to perhaps take the pot away on the turn or river even without improving. I don't ever fold in this spot.

But I think it's quite likely they will both fold, esp MP1 that looks like a cbet gone wrong. Of course you';re right that if either call, equity is good. That is the main question it seems. If you're at the table with them you can get enough info on that...

Did they call, raise or fold beerman?

reads would help

I see MP3s range as fairly polarized between some strong hands and total air, MP2's range is really weak imo, SB is super strong. We are pretty much dead even with SB's strong range of AJ/KJ/sets/straights and the occasional crushing combo draw.