4-bet pot OOP
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 9 players
(UTG): $11.31 (45 bb)
(UTG+1): $25.00 (100 bb)
(MP): $47.91 (192 bb) Vpip 15 PFR 10 AF 3 3B:9 (Only 20 Hands)
(MP+1): $8.55 (34 bb)
(LP): $30.34 (121 bb)
(CO): $28.44 (114 bb)
(BU): $27.50 (110 bb)
(SB): $26.23 (105 bb)
Hero (BB): $27.39 (110 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A♥ K♦
(UTG) raises to $0.50, 1 fold, (MP) 3-bets to $2, 4 players fold, (SB) calls $1.90, Hero (BB) 4-bets to $8.75, 1 fold, (MP) calls $6.75, 1 fold
Flop: ($20) K♠ 8♥ 7♣ (2 players)
Hero (BB) bets $8.75, (MP) calls $8.75
Turn: ($37.50) 2♠ (2 players)
Hero (BB) bets $9.89 (all-in), (MP) calls $9.89
River: ($57.28) 3♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $57.28 (Rake: $2)
what do u think should I fold pre or 4-Bet is good? Is my size too big ?
I don't like to cold call 3-bet OOP
Hi there siwanat99, glad to see you are climbing up the stakes! Thank you very much for sharing with the CardsChat community. I'll try to help you here
The Preflop
This is a real hard spot because we are out of position and many players with strong ranges are yet to speak. Calling AKo oop seems very bad because we might enter a MWP, and UTG can still 4-bet, putting us on a even more complicated situation.
The 4-bet is okay and the fold is also okay, I don't see calling here as a good thing.
One thing I do not advocate is to go with huge 4-bet sizings, even out of position, because when we do it, we are commiting our stack postflop no matter the outcome of the flop/turn/river.
Hero 4-bets from the BB a size of 3.64 times the size of MP's 3-bet and this is very large and dangerous: if MP or UTG 5-bet jams we cannot fold anymore because we already invested one 1/3 of our entire stack, thus we will have the proper
odds.
Out of position, I would be going for a maximum of 2.5x 4-bet with all of my bluffs and values. IP I am only 4-betting 2x, 2.1x til 2.2x at max with values/bluffs.
Remember that if anyone calls, you are already commited to the pot. Villain MP is deep stacked and could call your 4-bet with a larger range, including all the pocket pairs and some strong suited broadways.
Nonetheless, MP had 3-bet UTG, for this reason we believe the lowest pair MP can have in a situation like this is TT.
Which hands MP could be 3-betting UTG? TT+, AJs+, A5s-A2s, KQs, AQo+, which are 6.49% of hands, including some bluffs of course, hands such as A5s-A2s, but we don't expect a lot of these hands.
As a default we expect Villain to have more JJ+, AQs+, KQs, AKo, which is only 3.62% 4-bet calling range.
The Flop
Since ranges are more obvious in 4-bet pots, we are out of position, and there are almost 100 blinds on the pot already, I see no reason to be betting this flop with anything that 4-bets: AK, AQ, AA, KK, QQ, JJ, maybe TT, none of these hands are comfortable c-betting oop here, unless KK which has the top set/nuts.
And if I go for a c-bet, I would go, with my entire range, for a 1/3 pot if we are not already commited to the pot. Going 1/2 pot and going all-in here seems all the same to me.
When you do c-bet, which hands you expect to be paying here in a high frequency, when it comes a King on the Flop? QQ? JJ?
The Turn
A brick, but it doesn't make much difference since we start to commit ourselves preflop by going for an almost 4x 4-bet, and when we c-bet 1/2 pot or jam the flop, to me is all the same. You are polarizing your range too much for value, thus, making Villain's reads more easy.
We have invested so much here that it really doesn't make much difference now if Villain has us beat or not, we are going in no matter what. Anyways, Villain can also have AK and we are even, AA and KK. I find it very hard to believe that a Villain will show up on a river like this with spaz KQ, or TT, JJ or QQ. It is possible and if you see that happens, put a note on the player that it is calling polarized 4-bets IP lighter than usual.
It is a real sad time, but we see that MP has 3 combos of AA, 3 combos of KK and 6 combos of AKo plus 2 combos of AKs = 12 combos are beating us and 8 combos we are even.
Regards;
Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa
