$25 NLHE Full Ring: AK oop with 2 callers of a 3-bet and a mono flop

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full tilt poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1129214
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CO: $10.94
BTN: $14.89
SB: $8.05
Hero (BB): $39.50
UTG: $8.08
UTG+1: $26.32
UTG+2: $28.47
MP1: $75.45
MP2: $8.15

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with K
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2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.85,
3 folds, BTN calls $0.85,
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, UTG+2 calls $2.65, BTN calls $2.65

Flop: ($10.60) J
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7
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Q
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(3 players)
Hero ...?

I have all the outs in the world, it would seem, but with 2 callers of my 3-bet I am a little worried. Do I bet out here, how much if I do, and generally what should my plan for the rest of the hand be?

I have almost no hands on the button, and about 450 on the original raiser, where he is playing 12.5/9/2.5, with 50% fold to 3-bet (not certain how relevant that last bit is).
 
Stu_Ungar

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check - shove all in

The pot is big (10.50) and if one of the villians raises say 1/2 pot then its $15

You have more than 50% equity.

The thing to remember is this, what type of hands do people like to call 3bets with? TT-QQ and AJ+ and some high suited Aces and KQs

Well as you hold the Ad and the Jd and Qd is onboard its almost impossible for someone to have a flush already.

I think the calling range here is KQo AJo AQo Sets KK

So lets say you have 25% FE and 45% hand Equity.

Shoving is hugely EV at this point in the hand.

Infact open shoving is +EV but less so than when someone else puts some money in the pot before you do it.
 
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Ehh I'm not fond of the c/r here. Why are we thinking one of them will bet? They will be scared of the board too, will call a bet or two with big pairs but not bet out imo. I would bet like $7-$8 here and shove any turn but a Q
 
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Well the money is going in, that's for sure. Its just a matter of how. Lets think about the scenarios:

Pros for betting
-We get more fold equity than check/shoving since no one is bet/folding this flop.
-If the turn checks through and we whiff, we have to check/call and that's just going to be about break even, not +EV.

Pros for check/jamming
-Sometimes this checks through and we make our hand free! Shoving when you have 100% equity is REALLY profitable!
-If UTG bets and BTN calls/shoves, we can trap dead money in easier.

So idk, I think I'm leaning towards a check/jam. The button looks really bad, and I really want him in the hand if he's got something like J♠T. Also if it checks through and we bink a ten, that's like grounds for doing a backflip.

But honestly, I'm not sure it matters that much. Flip a coin, there probably won't be a big difference in EV between the two.
 
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okay, as the hand played out, the money did get in on the flop, but seriously, why would any one of them bet if i check this board? :confused:

if the flop gets checked and the turn is a blank, am i still comfortable shoving here? or do i go for the check-raise again, which as c9 said isn't exactly for fold equity...
 
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