$25 NLHE Full Ring: AK HU oop 3 bet pot

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Villain is a break even reg over ~2k hands playing 14/7/1.7. Steal from BTN 20% Fold to 3 bet of 18%

Notes I have on him is that he doesn't fold to c bets in 3 bet pots but will give up to double barrels in normal pots. The plan in this hand was to be double barrelling most boards, just wondering if this board is perfect for it or an absolute disaster...

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CO ($37.69)
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Dealt to Hero A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.75, fold, BTN calls $1.90

FLOP ($5.75) Q 5 J

Hero bets $3.75, BTN calls $3.75

TURN ($13.25) Q 5 J Q

Hero
 
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Once he calls on the flop its OUCH.. Now what LOL:icon_scra and why cant that Q on the turn be a heart LOL..
 
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Did you read what I wrote above the HH?
 
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Yea ,so if you dont fire again hes going to fire on the turn right?? Then you shove over the top?? LOL
 
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I think my options are more like bet/fold or check/fold.
 
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When watching the poker pro videos they usually say since the board paired its less likely he has the Q so it would be a good board to fire again and see what happens..:cool:
 
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I'd probably bet like half pot on turn and then give up if caleld, unless you hit your gutter of course.
 
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Although check/folding is a completely viable option as well. As a matter of fact I might be more likely to check/fold in-game.
 
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You should wonder what are you trying to push him off that beats you by betting the turn? I see small and med pairs 66-TT, otherwise a J will never fold, a Q obv won't something like KT-T9 probably won't either (but that's ok).

Do you really think he continues with 66-TT here on the flop and gives up the turn? Even if he does, it's a small part of his range to target. From stats he seems unlikely to try and bluff you so c/f. By the same logic cbetting the flop was wrong. Forget normal raised pots, you have less FE in 3-bet ones.
 
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When the turn pairs its usually a bad time to double barrel bluff.
The problem you have is he loves to float so is he calling to bluff catch or does he really like his hand.

The paired Q doesn't really change his hand range any and it makes it less likely you have any of the board. IMO id just check fold to a bet.

I don't mind the c bet on the flop as you have equity but when called and the bad turn card id give up. Infact i dont think id be too happy to pair the turn as it opens so many straight possiblitiies for him and 2 pairs.
 
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I think something to consider here is viallins range. He opens from the button 20% and folds to 3 bets only 18%. In position against what could likely be a re steal I think his range will still be quite wide here, say 14 or 15%.

14% looks like 77+,A7s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KJo+,QJo

As said he doesn't like to fold to c bets in 3 bet pots, he could well be continuing here with a large part of this range.

Although it does hit some of villains range it has to hit my range pretty hard to. My 3 bet over a button steal is about 8%... Villain is a fairly competent player and I'm sure he could put me on a range rather than just playing his cards and he does know where the fold button is. I think he will fold something like JT here but I'm not so sure about something like KJ, AJ... On the other hand I don't think he will really want to be playing for stacks with second pair. If I double barrel here with a made hand I am always getting it in on the river...
 
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When the turn pairs its usually a bad time to double barrel bluff.
The problem you have is he loves to float so is he calling to bluff catch or does he really like his hand.


I think betting the turn has merit because even if the Q on the turn doesn't change anything, it'll be hard for him to continue with 77-TT maybe even some kind of J.

Bet/fold could be a good idea based on the read you have stubzy
 
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i would never bet the turn i put him on jj qq or aq if he is calling a 3bet and a cbet so he could be slowplaying any of those hands his stats show he isnt guna be calling a 3bet with a really wide range so i dont see the value in betting the turn here at all he probably has a monster. the worst i think u can hope for is that he had aq and called the flop because he had tptk i dont think he would call the flop with anything worse than aq as the flop hit ur range after u 3bet. he could even have qj i think a queen here is bang on his range so i would check/fold alltime
 
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I would go with your read. It is a good board to do it on if you ask me because most mediocre hands he has will likely fold and if he has it you will find out. If he likes to float then fold turn I would bet fold
 
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