$25 NLHE Full Ring: AA vs. postflop aggression

Hey everyone,

I'm wondering if you can provide some feedback on this hand. I've included my thoughts on each street. Thanks for your thoughts/feedback.

$0.25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: $19.65 (VPIP: 8.77, PFR: 3.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, hands: 57)
CO: $33.88 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BTN: $31.44 (VPIP: 16.38, PFR: 8.47, 3Bet Preflop: 1.49, Hands: 179)
SB: $47.41 (VPIP: 14.62, PFR: 11.07, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 260)
BB: $34.89 (VPIP: 12.28, PFR: 8.77, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 57)
Hero (UTG): $31.45
Villain (UTG+1): $51.14 (VPIP: 26.05, PFR: 12.61, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 121)
UTG+2: $10.69 (VPIP: 25.20, PFR: 14.17, 3Bet Preflop: 1.92, Hands: 128)
MP: $29.49 (VPIP: 18.54, PFR: 15.36, 3Bet Preflop: 8.29, Hands: 538)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A:club: A:heart:

Hero raises to $1.10, UTG+1 calls $1.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

I put in a standard raise and get flatted by the +1. I'm really glad that didn't cause a few others to come along pre. I generally pick a standard pre flop raise and stick with it for the session to keep from giving off betting tells. Is this a good idea?

Flop: ($2.55, 2 players) 2:diamond: J:club: 8:club:
Hero bets $2.00, UTG+1 raises to $5.27, Hero calls $3.27

I continue and I'm a little surprised to get raised on this board, which makes me suspicious. However, villain could be putting me on a couple high cards with no draw and expecting me to go away. I put the villain on a lower pocket pair or AJ, and while 88 and JJ are in the range, I don't feel it's likely that I'm beat here and his range is pretty polarized I believe. I thought about raising here, but opted for the conservative route since I have some redraw outs with a good turn card if I happen to be behind.

Assigned range: 77+, AJ, (possibly, JT+,T9)

Turn: ($13.09, 2 players) 5:club:
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $8.72, Hero calls $8.72

This is an excellent card here and I know the villain will bet here a lot so I check. I thought about raising all-in here though. Should I be raising here in most situation with the nut draw and overpair? At point, I feel that the villain definitely has a pocket pair, possibly with a club, but is drawing to only 2 outs. AJ is likely out here since I have the A:club:.

River: ($30.53, 2 players) J:spade:
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $36.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $16.36 and is all-in

Not the greatest card, but I'm not going anywhere. I'm thinking I should probably be shoving here in most situations with the way that I played the turn and the amount of money in the pot. However, I don't think I can fold her since the only hands that I can my opponent on that beat me are JJ,88 and AJ, of which two of those hands are extremely unlikely.

[spoil]UTG+1 shows 4:diamond: 4:heart: (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours) (Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows A:club: A:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 98%)
Hero wins $59.74
[/spoil]

What do you think? The result here turned out great, but I want to be able to put myself in the best situations over the long term to see good results here.

Thanks!

Wouldn't say 4.5x is standard, I'd probably be raising to .7ish here. The flat is immediately very suspicious in such early position. V has fishy numbers, lots of calling/flatting preflop.

I like the call of his raise with the Ac blocker - let him sink himself w AJ.

Turn is a pretty obvious just flat IMO, he's folding worse 100% and we're stacked by better. I think your analysis is a bit too indepth considering his PF numbers, he could easily show AJ.

I don't think shoving river is really profitable...with those numbers, he'll certainly be calling with flushes and Js, which leaves him folding his bluffs. You played it well.

Why couldn't he have 6c7c, Tc9c, KcQc.... I might think he is playing flush draw aggressively and fold on turn or river... 3 streets of bluffing is not very typical imho

Did you have anything on your opponents playing style.Pocket 4s appears to be super aggressive to be 3 betting post flop even on relatively dry board. If he was a LAG, then they tend to play aggressively with weak pockets or semi-bluffs post-flop but if your opponent was a rock TAG or loose passive then I would be suspecting a flopped 2 pair or set.

okeedokalee said:

Did you have anything on your opponents playing style.Pocket 4s appears to be super aggressive to be 3 betting post flop even on relatively dry board. If he was a LAG, then they tend to play aggressively with weak pockets or semi-bluffs post-flop but if your opponent was a rock TAG or loose passive then I would be suspecting a flopped 2 pair or set.

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I didn't have any specific insight on this player other than the numbers. I didn't see anything significant from him as this was relatively early on my session.

Definitely looked like a LAG from this play and the numbers suggest he is calling a lot of hands, but not really the initiator in many pots.

I've been in similar situations and am always interested in learning good ways to play hands. Based on the way you played it, wouldn't it be better to shove on the turn? It looks like you were calling anything on the river anyway. This way he got a free look at his 2 outer. If he has you beat with 6c7c you still have outs. If he had aj he got a chance for that 3rd one and you called when it hit too.

I've had aces cracked many times from bad luck, bad play, etc so it's good to hear more ways of play.

Wow!! That's a bloody aggressive way to play 44 vs UTG open raise... I would never have put him on that by the turn. Due to his stats I feel he is calling open raises a lot with 22+ and suited connectors maybe (due to flat call PF). He played like he had 88 or possibly bluffed a draw on the flop, catching it on the turn.

Was he super aggro like this before in your session? If his AF is above 6 and high AFq, I might just shove the flop; You don't have a great sample to be relying on these numbers yet though...

I would have folded this. Well done!

almost want to fold flop his range for overcalling a big open and raising this flop should have a lot of sets and then when he bets big on turn we have to fold imo we dont have odds to make a flush a little implied odds