$25 NLHE Full Ring: AA ON the Button

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$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem (9 players)
SB: $25.28
BB: $10.16
UTG: $15.50 VPIP 34% PFR 9% AGG.5 HANDS 210
UTG+1: $12.79
MP: $4.82
MP+1: $14.30
MP+2: $25.31
CO: $25
BTN Hero: $27.19

Pre-flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN and dealt :ac4: :as4:
UTG calls $0.25, 5 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($3.85) :8s4: :5c4: :3s4: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.85, UTG raises to $8.50, Hero ok so He limps UTG he has a shorter stack so those two signs say hes prob not a very solid player. He check reraise because he prob??

1.) Fold he seems way to strong.

2.) Flat and let him ship the reast on the turn.

3.) Just Jamm, he only has $5.50 behind and we are prob way ahead.


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c9h13no3

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Call, ship all turn cards. His fold to c-bet is 25%, and he check/raises tons of flops. So this guy never gives up on the flop.

Edit - Didn't see he was short, so super easy shove here.
 
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i say jam you lose to trips but u win all other top pairs and he is short stack you could be ahead anyways? i doubt he is on a draw or two pairs. i think either he has an over pair or trips. but you cant fold here can you?
 
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Call, ship all turn cards. His fold to c-bet is 25%, and he check/raises tons of flops. So this guy never gives up on the flop.

Edit - Didn't see he was short, so super easy shove here.

Only shows 15% (13) that's tons or??
 
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he has 5.50 behind, i am just jamming and hoping he doesn't have trips, i dont think you can ever get away from this hand
 
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Yeah just get it in on the flop. There are plenty of draws/mid-high PPs in his range that you're beating.
 
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Idk. I think the only thing that makes me want to shove is stack sizes. This guy is not agressive at all so I can see us being beat here a ton of the time
 
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Shove flop + not close imo. Based on him having a short stack and being a donk and our hand strength.
 
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Shove flop + not close imo. Based on him having a short stack and being a donk and our hand strength.
Exactly what I was thinking.

I'm guessing we just had to suck it up when he showed us pocket 3s?
 
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trips and sets are different..

everyone just wants to get it in because of stack sizes, but how much of a fish is he?

I prefer calling since that keeps in his bluff range and he'll still ship his hands with equity on the turn.

and we have the As so he can't have the nut flush draw..

he'll show up with sets/two pair some of the time but more often than not he'll show TPSK, random draws and air.
 
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He definetly has an over pair or a set here. I can't fold Aces though, or kings or any over pairs in this spot ;)

He isn't aggro enough to be doing this with some random piece of the board. Even fish won't limp UTG with 5,8,3 and garbage like that. I think you just have to get it in now, I woulden't be surprised if he has a set here though purely based on a standard play of "limp, call raise" signifies a small/middle pocket pair nearly everytime. IS there not a slim chance he would be limp/calling pre with hands like 10'10's-Kings too and any flop looks good to get it in that has no overs?

Tricky, but I don't fold + we can still hit a better set ;) - but I'm not 100% thrilled in most cases getting it in just because of how it's played seems settt all day.
 
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He isn't aggro enough to be doing this with some random piece of the board. Even fish won't limp UTG with 5,8,3 and garbage like that. I think you just have to get it in now, I woulden't be surprised if he has a set here though purely based on a standard play of "limp, call raise" signifies a small/middle pocket pair nearly everytime. IS there not a slim chance he would be limp/calling pre with hands like 10'10's-Kings too and any flop looks good to get it in that has no overs?

Tricky, but I don't fold + we can still hit a better set ;) - but I'm not 100% thrilled in most cases getting it in just because of how it's played seems settt all day.

never underestimate the fish.

just really depends if we can beat 9% of hands postflop.

yeah, we have a backdoor flush.. and straight maybe?

on top of the fact of what our range looks like to him, he could be trying to blow us off AK etc here.

call.
 
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Shove flop, not close.

This will be weaker overpairs and draws lots. Both of which he will never fold to a shove here and now as he's so little behind.

I also think preflop is too big, 7x is a bit much even with AA vs a fish we're going to make him fold more than he normally would and defo lose the blinds. That and he's short stacked, getting his stack in will be piss easy without needing a huge raise.
 
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Are you guys not even looking at his AF/AFq? This guy is WAY passive, there's no way he's doing this with draws unless there's some kind of weird game dynamic we don't know about
 
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I wouldn't make the decision based on those stats. I don't even bother using them. AF is not converged yet by a longshot. Ag% is getting there and has an extreme value which means something but even then I don't like using these stats especially when it comes to really loose players.

If someone is calls with 80% of hands on any flop and raises 20% does that make them more passive than someone who raises 10% of hands and calls 10%?
If we looked at it soley in preflop terms a 50/35 has a higher call ratio than a 12/10. This doesn't mean the 12/10 is more aggressive! (Simplified example).

Postflop I can't see any stats that look very passive. 15% CR flop, 100% c-bet, raise c-bet 19%. He's been given this low score based on his tiny pfr and extreme looseness which has led to a high call/bet ratio.
 
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AFq converges way faster than AF and is pretty accurate IMO. The 15% flop c/r is a worthless stat I think.
 
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AFq converges way faster than AF and is pretty accurate IMO. The 15% flop c/r is a worthless stat I think.
Fold to flop cbet converges plenty fast, and he's only folded 4 out of 16 times to cbets. There's no way I give this monkey credit for a real hand.
 
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That doesn't mean he goes apeshit and c/rs a ton with trash.
 
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