$25 NLHE Full Ring: A few hands to review..

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Hey guys, can you review the next few hands for me?

Hand 1:
poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $24.64 (98.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $48.36 (193.4 bb)
UTG+1: $50.56 (202.2 bb)
UTG+2: $44.72 (178.9 bb)
MP1: $70.64 (282.6 bb)
MP2: $52.94 (211.8 bb)
MP3: $26.49 (106 bb)
CO: $38.56 (154.2 bb)
BTN: $26.35 (105.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2c 2s
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 7h 2d 9d (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $1.53, Hero raises to $4.75, MP2 calls $3.22

Turn: ($11.10) Qd (2 players)
Hero bets $8, MP2 calls $8

River: ($27.10) 4s (2 players)
Hero bets $16.50, MP2 calls $16.50

Results: $60.10 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 7h 2d 9d Qd 4s
Hero showed 2c 2s and lost (-$30 net)
MP2 showed 6d Jd and won $58.10 ($28.10 net)


Hand 2:

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $33.29 (133.2 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $56.59 (226.4 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $29.28 (117.1 bb)
MP1: $31.55 (126.2 bb)
MP2: $59.84 (239.4 bb)
MP3: $22.84 (91.4 bb)
CO: $28.96 (115.8 bb)
BTN: $20.09 (80.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Kh As
UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.85, 5 folds

Flop: ($2.05) 4d 5c Ks (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.05) 7d (2 players)
Hero bets $3.75, MP2 calls $3.75

River: ($12.55) Ac (2 players)
Hero bets $8, MP2 raises to $53.74 and is all-in, Hero calls $15.18 and is all-in

Results: $58.91 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 4d 5c Ks 7d Ac
Hero showed Kh As and lost (-$29.28 net)
MP2 showed 4c 4h and won $56.91 ($27.63 net)


Hand 3:

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $24.86 (99.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $29.19 (116.8 bb)
UTG+1: $20.06 (80.2 bb)
UTG+2: $25.80 (103.2 bb)
MP1: $24.20 (96.8 bb)
MP2: $16.58 (66.3 bb)
MP3: $25.05 (100.2 bb)
CO: $22.77 (91.1 bb)
BTN: $25.45 (101.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qd Ac
5 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.35, CO calls $1.60

Flop: ($4.80) Ah 9c Tc (2 players)
Hero bets $3.30, CO calls $3.30

Turn: ($11.40) 9d (2 players)
Hero bets $8, CO calls $8

River: ($27.40) 6s (2 players)
Hero bets $13.08, CO calls $9.12 and is all-in

Results: $45.64 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: Ah 9c Tc 9d 6s
Hero showed Qd Ac and lost (-$22.77 net)
CO showed Ts Td and won $43.64 ($20.87 net)



Thanx in advance!
 
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Hand 1 - Check fold river unless river bet is extemely small.

Hand 2 - Check call turn and check fold river. Or the way you played it but simply folding to the river raise because rarely anyone would bluff at that spot. So a raise there means you are beat.

Hand 3 - Cooler. Difficult to get away from this spot no matter how you play it. To save your chips in this hand you need two things. Conservative play that is no 3 betting pre flop and having a good read on opponent's play/betting pattern.:cheers:
 
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hand 1. You can probably bet less on the turn, say $6 or so. How much of his range will call $6 but fold to $8? Once he calls the turn, what's his range and how much of it do you beat? Enough to value bet? Or are you trying to bluff him when you have near the top of the range he's likely to put you on, and when he already called the turn vs pretty much that same range.

hand 2. A lot hinges on your evaluation of the opponent. If you think he'd call your flop bet often with a second pair that wasn't high enough to 3bet pre-, and that he'd then bet the turn if you check, I can see either leading the turn or check-calling. But if this scenario isn't particularly likely, his likely range looks like 44 55 AK. Against this range, checking with the intention of folding doesn't look bad at all. So the key question is how much info I have to be able to put him on this range.

Once you bet the turn and get called, it doesn't seem very likely that you can value bet. What's he calling with that you beat? Probably nothing, which means you're betting when the best case scenario is a chop where you can only call a raise if you think he'd bluff pretty often. Check-fold seems best.

Hand 3. Your line seems somewhat optimistic. What did he call your 3bet pre- plus your flop and turn bets with that you beat? AJ? JJ to KK? A club draw without the Ac? None of these are impossible, but they're all less likely than hands that have you beat. I think you can at least consider checking the river and maybe making a crying call if he bets small.
 
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Thanx for the replies guys!

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Those of you talking about folding a set in hand #1 are retarded. Just about all the advice given in this thread has been terrible.

1) If villain is raising suited junk preflop, then calling with 22 probably isn't profitable. Setmine against nits, not lags.

2) Maybe you can fold the river in hand 2, but readless and getting like 4:1 I convince myself he has a lower two pair often enough.

3) the three bet pre is a little thin, but that's a cooler.
 
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Those of you talking about folding a set in hand #1 are retarded. Just about all the advice given in this thread has been terrible.

1) If villain is raising suited junk preflop, then calling with 22 probably isn't profitable. Setmine against nits, not lags.
How is it good advice to assume the opener is a lag when the OP stated no such indication?

And how or why is it necessary to disagree by using a derogatory personal attack?
 
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1. I wouldn't see my self slowing down with a set after he called our flop raise, unless we know villain will always go fishing on a Fd. Personally would have played it like you did.

2. Just fold to river raise. All previous action is good.

3. Call pre. As Arjonius said, is he really calling your turn bet with AJ QQ or KK? I really don't know why you bet the river.
 
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How is it good advice to assume the opener is a lag when the OP stated no such indication?
Did you see what he raised with? He's a lag. Maybe his stats were 9/9 when he raised pre, but I highly doubt it.

And this is a forum about making money playing poker, not daycare. I'm not going to coddle your feelings if your advice is costing people money.
 
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1, id have played it the same
2 check fold depending on their bet size
3 everything ok apart from 3 bet
 
Arjonius

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Did you see what he raised with? He's a lag. Maybe his stats were 9/9 when he raised pre, but I highly doubt it.
Figuring he's a LAG after you saw what he raised with is 20/20 hindsight.

And this is a forum about making money playing poker, not daycare. I'm not going to coddle your feelings if your advice is costing people money.
Disagree with what I said all you like. I learn a lot from people who think differently from me. But disagreeing with multiple posters' opinions seem by denigrating us personally seems completely unwarranted.
 
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