$25 NLHE Full Ring: 54s vs. reraise and big bets after a call preflop

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Hey everyone -- Here's a hand that I have been analyzing and I'd love to get some feedback here as to how I can be better in these situations.

MP+1: $12.32 (VPIP: 25.81, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, hands: 31)
Villain (CO): $67.51 (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 17.69, 3Bet Preflop: 5.45, Hands: 133)
BTN: $39.28 (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 11.73, 3Bet Preflop: 2.41, Hands: 199)
SB: $17.50 (VPIP: 23.49, PFR: 11.41, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 150)
BB: $11.18 (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 16.88, PFR: 10.39, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 78)
UTG+1: $24.57 (VPIP: 6.06, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)
Hero (MP): $41.08

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 5:heart: 4:heart:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, MP+1 calls $1.00, CO calls $1.00, fold, fold, fold

I put in a raise here with a decent drawing hand that plays well pre flop. I can mostly get away from this hand easily if I don't connect. If I hit the flop hard, I can generally stack, but I'm mostly looking to take a pot down.

Flop: ($3.35, 3 players) A:heart: T:spade: 3:heart:
Hero bets $1.00, fold, CO raises to $3.67, Hero calls $2.67

This is one of the best flops that I could see for my hand multiway and decided to lead out and continue here to disguise my hand. Of course, I'm not upset if I take the pot down here. However, when I get raised by the villain here, I can pretty much put him on an A here. I have 12 definite outs, so this looks like a sure call.

Assigned range: AT+, 88-JJ, 33 (QQ and KK would likely have 3bet pre)

Turn: ($10.69, 2 players) 7:club:
Hero checks, CO bets $8.01, Hero calls $8.01

The turn gives me 3 more outs. The villain puts in a big bet as I expect here. Raising is out of the question here as the villain has a legit hand too often here and I'm obviously not ahead.

I'm getting a little more than 2-1 odds here, and with 15 outs, I win about 30% here. I'm also pretty sure that I can extract another bet out of the villain, especially if I hit of my straight outs. I make the call.

River: ($26.71, 2 players) 6:diamond:
Hero checks, CO bets $17.80

Straight card hits my hand here and I check here as I planned to if hitting the straight. In hindsight here, I should probably be betting this spot more than often out of position since there is a chance my opponent could check a strong hand behind.

However, my opponent puts in another big bet and it seems very likely that he has a huge hand like AA, AT, TT, or 77.

I'd love to see your feedback on this hand, and I'm pretty sure what I'll see regarding my action on the river which I will post later. Thanks!
 
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Hey everyone -- Here's a hand that I have been analyzing and I'd love to get some feedback here as to how I can be better in these situations.

MP+1: $12.32 (VPIP: 25.81, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 31)
Villain (CO): $67.51 (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 17.69, 3Bet Preflop: 5.45, Hands: 133)
BTN: $39.28 (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 11.73, 3Bet Preflop: 2.41, Hands: 199)
SB: $17.50 (VPIP: 23.49, PFR: 11.41, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 150)
BB: $11.18 (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 16.88, PFR: 10.39, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 78)
UTG+1: $24.57 (VPIP: 6.06, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)
Hero (MP): $41.08

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 5 4

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, MP+1 calls $1.00, CO calls $1.00, fold, fold, fold

I put in a raise here with a decent drawing hand that plays well pre flop. I can mostly get away from this hand easily if I don't connect. If I hit the flop hard, I can generally stack, but I'm mostly looking to take a pot down.

Flop: ($3.35, 3 players) A T 3
Hero bets $1.00, fold, CO raises to $3.67, Hero calls $2.67

This is one of the best flops that I could see for my hand multiway and decided to lead out and continue here to disguise my hand. Of course, I'm not upset if I take the pot down here. However, when I get raised by the villain here, I can pretty much put him on an A here. I have 12 definite outs, so this looks like a sure call.

Assigned range: AT+, 88-JJ, 33 (QQ and KK would likely have 3bet pre)

Turn: ($10.69, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, CO bets $8.01, Hero calls $8.01

The turn gives me 3 more outs. The villain puts in a big bet as I expect here. Raising is out of the question here as the villain has a legit hand too often here and I'm obviously not ahead.

I'm getting a little more than 2-1 odds here, and with 15 outs, I win about 30% here. I'm also pretty sure that I can extract another bet out of the villain, especially if I hit of my straight outs. I make the call.

River: ($26.71, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO bets $17.80

Straight card hits my hand here and I check here as I planned to if hitting the straight. In hindsight here, I should probably be betting this spot more than often out of position since there is a chance my opponent could check a strong hand behind.

However, my opponent puts in another big bet and it seems very likely that he has a huge hand like AA, AT, TT, or 77.

I'd love to see your feedback on this hand, and I'm pretty sure what I'll see regarding my action on the river which I will post later. Thanks!
1. I think flop bet of less than 1/3 of the pot is far too small. If you, had an A or air you would have bet 2/3 - so I would bet the same here for balancing and better FE.
2. I don't see proper odds to call the flop raise given that you are drawing to only 1 card as the villain is going to bet on turn most of the times after his flop raise.
3. As you have nuts on the river and taking into an account that the vilain also might have a drawing hand (KhQk, SC... etc) I wouln't shove and would give him a good price or an opportunity to shove by raising to, say, 35
 
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Well, i disagree with some points in this hand.

Why you think he could have AA here?
Why are you betting so small on this flop? If you have Ax you`d bet also so small?
If you call a raise and hit your flush, how big pot are you ready to play?

I'm not a FR player, but your open from MP seems loose.
On river I'm rolling it in, since your draw is hidden.
 
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Trying to be helpful here, but pretty much every street was played badly.

Pre-flop: fold
Flop: Lead bigger and/or possible CR
Turn: Stack sizes are bad now, but you should lead because you can't CRAI.
River: Shove... nothing he's folding here really, and your hand played like you were on a draw and whiffed. Giving him a chance to check behind AJ/AQ is :(
 
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1. I think flop bet of less than 1/3 of the pot is far too small. If you, had an A or air you would have bet 2/3 - so I would bet the same here for balancing and better FE.
2. I don't see proper odds to call the flop raise given that you are drawing to only 1 card as the villain is going to bet on turn most of the times after his flop raise.
3. As you have nuts on the river and taking into an account that the vilain also might have a drawing hand (KhQk, SC... etc) I wouln't shove and would give him a good price or an opportunity to shove by raising to, say, 35

Thanks for your feedback here, especially regarding the bet sizing on the flop. I didn't want to see the pot get out of control in this situation so I went with a smaller size thinking that I could control the pot size.

As for the call of the pre flop raise, I was pretty sure that I could extract at least another bet from the villain here, especially if he held a hand like AxTh, or some other drawing hand like you mentioned. His raise on the flop said he didn't have a draw here, but if he picks up a draw on a turn card that hits my hand, I can lead there and expect to get a call most of the time.

By the way, here's the result of this hand:

River: ($26.71, 2 players) 6:diamond:
Hero checks, CO bets $17.80, Hero calls $17.80

CO shows A:club: A:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Aces) (Pre 78%, Flop 65%, Turn 70%)
Hero shows 5:heart: 4:heart: (Straight, Seven High) (Pre 22%, Flop 35%, Turn 30%)
Hero wins $58.85

I made a huge mistake here not raising the river, which I acknowledge that I should have either shoved or raised all-in.
 
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lol you do realize you have stone-cold nuts on river and calling there in a casino would raise red flags.
 
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I agree to all your moves sir. All throughout, your opponent is aggressive so checking for me on the river is fine likewise. He will definitely stab again on the river and raise him all in next. If you value bet, he might just call.
 
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