Originally Posted by cjatud2012
3-bet sizing is fine imo. I'm mostly a SNG player, but I would fold this, as I expect two pair a lot here, as well as JJ, and sometimes QQ or AA. He would overbet with these hands to make it look as if he were bluffing/ semi-bluffing. Even if he is semi-bluffing, our equity against a flush draw is probably only 2:1. Add a straight draw to that, or a pair to go with the flush draw, and our equity becomes even less.
So, without a special read, we can't really play this. Just curse under your breath, muck your cards, and look for a better spot.
I agree with this IF we were at a higher level (although AI with almost 200 BBs on the flop is less frequent).
However, I totally agree with your logic that this play is made often but I think it happens at more complex levels of play.
But if Hero just sat down, villian also has no reads.. According to your logic, villian is pushing with a really good hand, in the hopes of hero interpreting it as a bluff/semi-bluff and therefore calling. If villian doesn't know anything about hero, how can he assume that any Joe Schmoe player is capable of viewing his bet this way?
I think at this level, bets generally mean what they are supposed to mean. And I think it means, "I have a pair and a draw or a vulnerable hand and if you think you can beat me, you need to grow a pair and play for stacks. Plus, this flop is scary and you can't call." Therefore...it's probably more of a semi-bluff/bluff..
However, with that said, you are risking your stack to find out and this flop doesn't give you much equity IF you are a favorite because of all the draws. I would err on the side of folding and looking for a better spot with no read..
However, with a good-read.. Well, this could be a call...