£25 NLHE Full Ring: £25 NLHE Full Ring: river spot, other streets?

OMGITSOVER9K

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 27/21/2

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 27/21/2

sigh, 27/21/2 over 60ish hands he's a bad reg, had him tagged as a fish, he moved up to bad reg today.

opinions on other streets?

poker stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2084662
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UTG: $25.00
MP: $31.49
CO: $33.98
BTN: $28.78
Hero (SB): $27.70
BB: $46.66

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A :diamond: A :club:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, BB raises to $5.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($11.50) T :club: 9 :spade: T :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

Turn: ($22.50) K :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($22.50) 7 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $7, BB raises to $17.50, Hero ?
 
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Had he been 3betting/squeezing a lot over those 60 hands? You could have clicked it back or jammed PF.

OTR, you can't beat any of his value hands, unless he's a spazz and thinks raising TP here is for value, nice odds though, which is another reason why he should never be bluffing here.
 
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fold

He wont be raising QQ/JJ or AK here without an image or meta game & won't be good enough to cold 4bet bluff & make moves postflop.

Gay FR spot but he has kings here a huge amount of the time, trying to tarp you on teh turn.

hi btw im back
 
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he'd 4bet 3/3 opportunities, folded to my 5b shove with AK for one and then this.

I tried to get thin value from QQ/JJ and induce some spew/worse value raises from AK. To do this though I think I need to bet smaller OTR or I can just check maybe.

KK is the obv one, but 3 combos of KK here right compared to all the AK/Kx and air combos he can have here.

it might be KK a fair bit of the time but odds wise if he has air/worse here enough its a call isn't it? thats my problem.
 
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4bet stats are irrelevant.

I like your bet sizing, maybe make it slightly bigger. It would be interesting if he shoves, then I think he is more likely to be bluffing. His line screams value like he wants you to call. He wont be raising Kx combos here IMO, he will be flatting hoping to see QQ/JJ more often.

The only hands turned into a bluff I can make sense of is AQ/AJ
 
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4bet stats are irrelevant.

I like your bet sizing, maybe make it slightly bigger. It would be interesting if he shoves, then I think he is more likely to be bluffing. His line screams value like he wants you to call. He wont be raising Kx combos here IMO, he will be flatting hoping to see QQ/JJ more often.

The only hands turned into a bluff I can make sense of is AQ/AJ

how are 4bet stats irrelevant? kinda hard to construct a range here if we don't consider his 4bet % in a 4bet pot.

and it was a shove I think, I had like 10 behind if my memory serves me correctly.. its effectively a shove anyway. because of that, I think smaller could be better, 4-5 seems pretty good for thin value and inducing, I just made it 7 since I though he'd have QQ/JJ here more than complete air even if I think think some % of his range is air.
 
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fold yeh, i click it back pre, calling is whatever though you has aces never gonna be bad
 
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how are 4bet stats irrelevant? kinda hard to construct a range here if we don't consider his 4bet % in a 4bet pot.

and it was a shove I think, I had like 10 behind if my memory serves me correctly.. its effectively a shove anyway. because of that, I think smaller could be better, 4-5 seems pretty good for thin value and inducing, I just made it 7 since I though he'd have QQ/JJ here more than complete air even if I think think some % of his range is air.

60 hands = irrelvant 4bet stat hence the 3 samples
 
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how are 4bet stats irrelevant? kinda hard to construct a range here if we don't consider his 4bet % in a 4bet pot.

and it was a shove I think, I had like 10 behind if my memory serves me correctly.. its effectively a shove anyway. because of that, I think smaller could be better, 4-5 seems pretty good for thin value and inducing, I just made it 7 since I though he'd have QQ/JJ here more than complete air even if I think think some % of his range is air.

60 hands = irrelvant 4bet stat hence the 3 samples

Yeah he has no FE so it's value all day, fold
 
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Yeah I really don't think many players at .25nl are bluff-reraising the river in a 4bet pot, because so much of stacks are already invested. His check on the turn is pretty indicative of a very strong hand. If he had QQ or JJ then he would likely attempt to get you to fold on the turn, or at least find out of the king scared you also, but this line of check and then re-raise river is very rarely a bluff. And he might be 3betting CO opens light but I doubt he is 4betting too lightly, so as much as it hurts, I think this is actually a fold. Why check the flop though? Were you trying to keep his bluffs in the hand? If so, then the river is a call, if you think he is the type of player to be 4betting light.
 
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You know what Im gonna say here :)

4 bet stats are irrelevant completely over this hand sample though.
 
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I honestly really like how you played this post flop esp the b/f on the river. Combo wise we should get called from worse on the river most often I think and when he raises were so effed and its such a sick laydown but I dont think youre ever good.

....i think this is one of those "oh flat the aces, its such a pro move" then run into the nuts and sigh fold situations? lol
 
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lol the 'b/f' OTR, I have a habit of calling in these spots (if I know i'm gonna post it) for learning purposes just to see what he had..

imo it should be smaller on the river if i'm gonna fold to a shove
 
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