$25 NLHE 6-max: What range gets Villain to the river?

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$25 NL HE 6-max: What range gets Villain to the river?

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 18/13/2

In my second orbit at this table, Villain called my 4bet from MP in the sb w JJ and donk shoved an 8hi flop into my AA's - he's been playing back at me since then (i.e., I think he's tilting a bit).

What range are we putting him on that gets him to the river? What are your thoughts on playing the river here?

poker stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 520464
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CO: $10.25
BTN: $26.45
SB: $27.55
BB: $18.00
Hero (UTG): $47.45
MP: $12.30

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with J K
Hero raises to $0.95, MP calls $0.95, CO calls $0.95, BTN calls $0.95, 1 fold, BB calls $0.70

Flop: ($4.85) 2 J 4 (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.05, MP folds, CO folds, BTN calls $3.05, BB folds

Turn: ($10.95) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.50, BTN calls $6.50

River: ($23.95) 3 (2 players)
Hero ???
 
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At first glance, I'd say this is a check/call since this looks to be a PP less than Jacks most of the time (with worse J's and the occasional random A). I'll run some stuff in stove and get back.

What was your plan for the river if it wasn't a 3?
 
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What was your plan for the river if it wasn't a 3?

I was planning to shove, effective stacks are right for it. I think he's calling w a lot of worse hands, from worse Jx's to pp's. I didn't mention it in OP, but his 3bet over a small sample was 14%, I'd be surprised if he didn't take the opportunity to squeeze QQ+ pf w all the dead money in the pot, and his fold to cbet was 0, so I'm screwed by sets and AJ, wasn't concerned about J542 at all.

The 3 is obv what's throwing me off here.
 
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If he is tilting his range could be any pocket pair and of course A rag. I have no idea what to do here check call? I don't know
 
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Probably a lot of worse J's pp and a few strange Axs kind of hands. Obviously there are some sets in there and straights that your dead to, but I think you treat it as a bluff catcher. Check call any non retard sized bet take a note on what he had and if he called you down with Ax then it's value city and he's in your friendbook. I wouldn't get too caught up over this hand you get some good info out of it no matter what if he's slowplaying a big hand or whatever.
 
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I like the option of betting here. Based on your strong bets he could just as easily put you on AJ meaning that if he doesn't have the str8 he's cooked. So you win possibly two ways by him folding or he was just calling you down with a weaker pair.. or heck nothing at all...

But I probably play way too aggressively.
 
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I agree with check/calling and I call a shove here.

I don't know how everyone is putting him on lower pocket pairs though. Surely that is a little too loose a call down for a player on anything less than extreme tilt?

I think we're looking at JT+, and AJ was already ahead but a small enough portion of his range that I'd play for stacks here against a player who's badly tilting. Ax will show up some of the time, but I think if we check and he shoves he's much more likely to have a jack in his hand.

I like the option of betting here. Based on your strong bets he could just as easily put you on AJ meaning that if he doesn't have the str8 he's cooked. So you win possibly two ways by him folding or he was just calling you down with a weaker pair.. or heck nothing at all...

But I probably play way too aggressively.

What are you trying to get him to fold?

Sets/two pair are a tiny part of his range and not that likely to fold anyway (especially when he may be on tilt). Everything else that could be affraid of the straight, we beat.
 
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He's on the button and from what you described - tilting and playing back at you - he could be holding A-rag but strange for him to just call you down with it unles it was something like: A2, A3, A4. A5 - all could give his tilted mind a reason to call you down. Tough decision on the river....probably a check call....then you could still get away from the hand if he shoves...although you may not want to, lol...tough spot.
 
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