$25 NLHE 6-max: Turn top 2, Multiway F, Facing OOP Aggression, Turn ?

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PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $35.18 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 6)
BB: $34.06 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (UTG): $25.00
CO: $27.03 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BTN: $11.43 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J<font color='black'>♠</font> Q<font color='red'>♥</font>

Hero raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, fold

Flop: ($3.25, 4 players) J<font color='red'>♥</font> 4<font color='red'>♥</font> 9<font color='black'>♠</font>
SB bets $2.12, Hero calls $2.12, fold, fold

Turn: ($7.49, 2 players) Q<font color='red'>♦</font>
SB bets $4.49, Hero calls $4.49

River: ($16.47, 2 players) 2<font color='red'>♦</font>
SB checks, Hero Tank checks
 
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I felt Pre was OK, we are effectively in MP.

OTF I wasn't ready to give up, as I feel like SB has more than just 44/J9/AJ/KJ in his range. I had made a few plans for the turn depending on the CO/BTN's actions and the SB's actions on the turn.

I wanted to raise the turn, but we would have to shove and I assume villain folds semi-bluffs - we are blocking hands like QhTh, AhQh, KhQh, etc. In the hand the only hand I thought that was worse that could call a shove was exactly J9 (probably suited... only 2 of them left). I made a river plan and selected cards I would fold to a shove on, and cards I would call a shove with (I fully expected a shove), he actually confused me with the check.

OTR we have an SPR of 1, and after the check I was fairly certain he didn't have a straight, but some hand that either had no SDV and was giving up, or a hand that had SDV planning to check/evaluate. If we bet river what sizing do you like?
 
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Personally I don't play QJ very often even at 6 max its such a trap hand if you flop top pair. If I play it, im looking to make straights. So im not keen on opening it here against a bunch of unknowns.
His flop lead into 4 plays is pretty strong so Id be putting him on AJ a decent heart draw or a set. Not in any particular order. I wouldn't be keen calling otf here with two others still to act. Our call looks a little weak and we can easily get raised out here. Id call to close the action or if they were passives behind me. So we improve on the turn. I would check call and be betting if the heart misses I don't want ti bloat the turn facing a possible set .
On the end Id bet about 35% looking for thin value from Jx hands but fold to a shove. Would he look to CR a set on the end....unlikely. For me this is a clear bet on the river. If he has AJ in his shoes Id check call the river to pick off any busted heart draws but would expect to see you with QQ KK a fair amount as you were utg and not folding to 2 barrels
 
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I know everyone has their own game but I would really advise not to play QJo from EP even on a 5 handed table.

As played I am actually folding the flop. If you want to play QJ you should be prepared to fold top pair OTF or else in my opinion it will become quite a losing play.

But now that we call the flop everything changes. Now the SB might seem like a tight player but I'll call that sample not relevant. He might be some lag who just got absolute trash in the first few hands so I must emphasize that this sample doesn't matter. Its almost like its not there.

I would be inclined to raise the turn since its a bit unlikely that he lead out the flop like that with 8T or KT. But then again he could have so its okay to call as well.

We MUST bet the river in my opinion. If he is trapping us so be it we have too much value not to bet. OOP flop and turn aggressor normally only traps the river if it gives them a monster or they believe that the river has improved their opponents hand. This river does nothing ever.

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Villain shows up with Ah3h.

If we raise turn it would be all-in. We only have pot behind... If we min raise turn he calls with his draws (getting great odds and knowing we can't fold on any river) and check/folds when he misses, or gets it in with all of his strong hands. I don't know what he does with Jx to the min raise.


If we didn't have the Qh I would have shoved the turn. I feel like us having that blocker stops him from being able to have a lot of hands that could call.

I realize I have no history with him, but I do not feel like that means I should assume he is terrible or that he is good. I'm of course aware the river check looks very tight from me and the flop call looks loose... I also agree QJ is probably slightly too loose to open from MP. Regardless, that's how we got to the turn.

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I like call the flop and turn, and resolving to call him down on non-heart rivers. He could be leading out with the Ax nut flush draw, or KT, KQ, or 108 of hearts specifically. I don't think sets would lead out like this flop and turn, then check a blank river.

I think the river could be a bet when checked to because it's still possible for him to get to the river with worse that can pay you off, such as KQh.
 
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