$25 NLHE 6-max: Shove turn after flop CR?

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
SB ($16) [VPIP: 13.4% | PFR: 9.8% | AGG: 31.6% | 3-Bet: 3.3% | hands: 83]
BB ($28.06) [VPIP: 14.3% | PFR: 7.1% | AGG: 66.7% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 30]
HJ ($17.82) [VPIP: 32.1% | PFR: 28.6% | AGG: 25% | 3-Bet: 11.1% | Hands: 29]
CO ($8.39) [VPIP: 41.7% | PFR: 8.3% | AGG: 16.7% | 3-Bet: 25% | Hands: 12]
HERO ($70.33) [VPIP: 27.2% | PFR: 21% | AGG: 35.5% | 3-Bet: 11.9% | Hands: 10035]

Dealt to Hero: T T
HJ Folds, CO Calls $0.25, HERO Raises To $1.35, SB Folds, BB Calls $1.10, CO Folds
Hero SPR on Flop: [8.76 effective]


Flop ($3.05): 9 5 2
BB Checks, HERO Bets $1.77 (Rem. Stack: 67.21), BB Raises To $4.18 (Rem. Stack: 22.53), HERO Calls $2.41 (Rem. Stack: 64.80)


Turn ($11.41): 9 5 2 7
BB Bets $7.05 (Rem. Stack: 15.48), HERO Raises To $64.80 (allin), BB Calls $15.48 (allin)


River ($98.74): 9 5 2 7 3
 
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Here is what i think:

It looks like you are fairly LAG, so BB has a super wide range to defend with. We are talking basically anything he can play here and try to catch a miracle.

Flop, i think this bet is okay, i might size up a tad bit, but i think either one is fine. When he c-raises, we can still be calling i think. There are some draw hands in his range like 8d6d, etc. so I think we can see a turn.

Turn is a fairly simple fold. He essentially never has bluffs here because of this sizing. If you call, he can jam for around 1/2 pot on river which he should realize is a super simple call. Some of his draws came in, his sets are still good, he really shouldn't do this play with diamonds.

I think here our TT becomes a bluffcatcher. But, if you feel like seeing a river, a jam is correct simply as both you and v are priced in on the river anyways.
 
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the way u played the flop and turn u did put him strictly on a flush draw, it can be but that's not the only option, he could easily have an already made hand flopping trips or even a 46 hand that's why i dont like your turn raise.
 
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Yeah, I doubt this villain does this with 9x. On the flop, this is either a big draw with at least 12 outs or a set. Most flush draws of our opponent have an overcard. I'd just fold the flop, a 14 vpip doesn't have a ton of draws.

As played, I'd get it in on the turn. The flop is your decision point, and it's a tough laydown. But one you should make.
 
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Hard to say with only a sample of 30 hand how the opponents is to be viewed but in 6 max 14% VIP in 30 hands is still very low so would put him on the tight/rock side of the spectrum.

BB calls your raise would put him on about top 10% range of his hands. Big pairs like AA and KK and also AK, AQ, AJ 3 bet a certain percentage of the time.

On the flop you check he raises. Given the low flop would put him on either a high flush draw with two over cards or TT,JJ,QQ or a set of 9's or 5's or top pair top kicker (nowadays you will find many players that like to set mine). So his range looks something like this:
QQ-99,A9s,K9s,J9s,T9s,98s,AdTd,Ad8d,Ad7d,Ad6d,Ad4d,Ad3d,Ad2d,KdQd,KdJd,KdTd,QdJd,QdTd,JdTd,8d7d,[50]55,22,AdQd,AdJd[/50],[20]AA-KK,AdKd[/20]
Your equity against this range is 40% but it means that he has to play 9x and all flush draws this way which I doubt he does if hes a rock/tight player.

In my opinion the flop is a fold against the check raise, although you do not block his flush draws you block his T9 hands (I even doubt if 9x hands will make this play) and you don't beat any over pair to the board, even if your against a loose opponent you have at best a marginal hand.

The turn is a fold, what bluffs does he have? The second best is to shove as you did to extract the max from draws.
 
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thanks the advice, you guys gave me a lot to think about on how to fix my games
 
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I don't think you should be raising turn here. You only have a 2 outter going to the river and your opponent has already shown strength with a flop check raise. By raising turn your folding out everything worse and only getting called by better.
 
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