$25 NLHE 6-max: set mining, check my line?

stately7

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Two areas of feedback I'm looking for please from members. This is Rush on FTilt, so minimal reads/notes on players.

PRIMARY QUESTIONS
With set mining here, are my odds / implied odds correct to do so preflop? Also the c/raise line OTT, is this roughly a good size?

OTHER
Any sense in c/raising the flop? Can it be better to see a river here, even w/ 2 opponents? How I played it felt right at the time, but wanted to see how my thinking compares. Thanks...

Hand Information
full tilt poker , 0.25 BB (6 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 1 Player 1 ($25.68)
Seat: 2 Player 2 ($25.37)
Seat: 3 Player 3 ($13.43)
Seat: 4 Hero ($25.83) Dealer
Seat: 5 Player 5 ($34.56) Small Blind
Seat: 6 Player 6 ($26.83) Big Blind
Dealt to Hero
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Preflop (Pot:0.35)
Player 1****RAISE $0.75
Player 2****FOLD
Player 3****FOLD
Hero****CALL $0.75
Player 5****FOLD
Player 6****CALL $0.5

Flop(Pot: $2.35)
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Player 6****BET $1.25
Player 1****CALL $1.25
Hero****CALL $1.25

Turn(Pot: $6.1)
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Player 6****BET $3
Player 1****CALL $3
Hero****RAISE $13.57
 
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Looks OK, sizing could be a bit smaller (around 10$) and still defend vs draws.
 
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Looks OK, sizing could be a bit smaller (around 10$) and still defend vs draws.

Thanks LD, yeah it felt a little on the heavy side. i think $10 would be about 85% of pot at that point OTT, seems plenty enough.
 
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I like the raise you don't want to see a river multi way when the board gets a little more draw heavy with that kind of turn.
 
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The point is to overcharge them so even if they hit river they lose long term. If sizing is too big you get calls only from other sets.
 
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So really it's anything between 70% and 85% to overcharge the draws OTT without giving them correct odds?
 
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76s of hearts is the best drawing hand (OESD on flop + picked up FD on the turn) and it has 30% equity on the turn. You have position so that is a plus.

So pricing out that exact hand is a bit tricky but their whole range has lesser draws so if you consider those too (and you WANT those to balance the equation) you can get away with lesser sizing.

Play with Poker Stove :)
 
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I don't know why I was talking about check raising at start of thread. Yeah I was in position :/

Cool, will go play with Poker Stove some more ;)
 
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I think the hand was played very well. I would prolly raise to around $11.50 myself but this is perfectly fine. wp
 
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looks alright, could have raised pre as well if you wanted too

your line gets better the tighter utg opener is
 
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I see that no one mentioning raise flop, would it be a bad idea?
 
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No need to raise flop with position, not many imminent draws present so you want to get a 2nd barrel a percent of the time before you raise.
 
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I see that no one mentioning raise flop, would it be a bad idea?

Yeah I guess what LD said. I figured it was a very non-threatening flop for a set of 5s. If more draw-heavy with suits or connectors, and esp cards in the range of the UTG opener and MP caller (10, J, Q kind of areas), I'd be raising the flop for sure.

OTHER THOUGHTS
Turn bets from villains seemed likely based on flop play. If they'd shut down OTT, I'd have bet 75% of the pot I'd say. If called, I'd be tempted to shut down myself or only call down on the river.
 
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looks alright, could have raised pre as well if you wanted too

your line gets better the tighter utg opener is

Yeah I often wonder about this, I tend not to 3-bet smaller pairs in position, but I imagine this can be profitable. Against unknowns, don't mind set mining.
 
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I see that no one mentioning raise flop, would it be a bad idea?

Never raising this flop. Maybe a spewtard calls a raise here with AT, but other than those rare times, what calls here? 67 is about it that we're ahead of. So yeah, bad spot to raise. Now if the board was ThJh5d or something like that, then raising is perfectly warranted.
 
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Never raising this flop. Maybe a spewtard calls a raise here with AT, but other than those rare times, what calls here? 67 is about it that we're ahead of. So yeah, bad spot to raise. Now if the board was ThJh5d or something like that, then raising is perfectly warranted.

Yep, this. Esp a ThJh5d type of flop.
 
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