$25 NLHE 6-max: Overpair deep.

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$25 NL HE 6-max: Overpair deep.

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 22/17/53

Villain is a 22/17/53% with 12% 3bet and 0% fold to 3bet(4hands).
Had not seen him c/r before but sample is small.
I had 3bet him a couple times before.
But mostly I had stayed out of his way trying to abuse the whale at the table instead, he seemed to be doing the same.

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed)

Button ($25.15)
SB ($74.25)
BB ($62.50)
UTG ($62.95)
Hero (MP) ($58.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K
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, K
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UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $3.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.60) 9
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, 4
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, Q
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(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.50, UTG raises to $11, Hero?
 
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I hate people that flat 3 bets, mainly 'cause I don't know what range to put them on. At $25nl people seem to think they should setmine 44 or call with middle suited connectors. They treat their raise and your 3 bet as if they are flatting a raise.

Unfortunately in your situation the two of you are both deep, meaning setmining isn't a bad choice for your opponent preflop. To a min-checkraise I don't think you can give up an overpair, but is he bad enough to have AQ here? Would he call a 3 bet with JT because you're deep? Would he min-checkraise a flush draw alone? If we raise, is he the type of player that would jam draws plus some air?

Bleh, I probably talk myself into flatting. There are a lot of draws, but I don't know how many are in his 3bet flatting range is the problem.
 
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I'd flat, and c/c safe turn and river
 
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once you flat you give up the initiative and villain will maneuver for stacks.. its not an option I think. This is a thin spot but not because of the board or your hand. 100BB deep vs unkown this is a shove for me. you really have to go with your reads. what were villains V-betting patterns against the fish you were both abusing?

vrs:
99+,44,AQs,KQs,AQo,KQo
you are at about 59%
I'd shove.
 
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He can't shove because stacks are so deep, any hands that beat him will call and any hands he beats will fold.

From his stats I gather he is aggressive, not sure about 53% AFq as I use AF but he also likes to 3-bet light obv so you can assume bluffs are within his range.

What was your 3-bet% ? He doesn't have to put you on KK+ for a 3-bet, you would cbet that with TT JJ AQ KQ as well.

I would flat to induce more bluffs or TPTK value bets. What could he have that beats you? Not AA since he would surely 4-bet that, possibly any set and that's about it.

If he is bluffing he will probably give up after the turn and you can fold to a river shove
 
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Personally I flat call, and it may seem weak but calling down the rest of the way might be the right move. Personally I do think he has AQ here, the money seemingly will come itself in this pot, there's no reason to raise because, as said above, he calls you with hands that beat you, folds with hands that don't.
 
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i call this and call the turn and river unless some real scary stuff shows up.
villian's hand looks a lot like AQ to me.
 
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I hate people that flat 3 bets, mainly 'cause I don't know what range to put them on. At $25nl people seem to think they should setmine 44 or call with middle suited connectors. They treat their raise and your 3 bet as if they are flatting a raise.
Totaly agree. I get completly losed when people start flatting my 3bets OOP.
On the one hand since where deep he might do it with hands that would other wise fold or 4bet(TT-QQ,AQ,AK) but the fact where deep might make him start set mining/calling Axs, SC and other stuff with implied odds.


Unfortunately in your situation the two of you are both deep, meaning setmining isn't a bad choice for your opponent preflop. To a min-checkraise I don't think you can give up an overpair, but is he bad enough to have AQ here? Would he call a 3 bet with JT because you're deep? Would he min-checkraise a flush draw alone? If we raise, is he the type of player that would jam draws plus some air?
Problem here is obvs sample size on villain. I only have 1xx hands on him at this point in time so I have no idea what is range for flatting OOP is.

sets,JT might be in there,AQ,Ackc probably c/r if it flatts prf,alot of the flusdraws might c/r,KcQx might c/r if its in there.

against that range we are 54%.
Board: 9h 4c Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.279% 44.34% 00.94% 134310 2857.50 { QQ+, 99, 44, AcKc, AQs, JTs, Tc9c, 9c8c, 8c7c, 7c6c, 6c5c, 5c4c, 4c3c, 3c2c, AQo, KcQs, JTo }
Hand 1: 54.721% 53.78% 00.94% 162915 2857.50 { KK }

But what u think is the best way to play against that range, and do u agree with my rough estimation of his range?
The weaker part of his range might slowdown if I just call and we risk leting his draws catch up(maybe not a huge problem since there isnt alot of "hidden" draws possible and his weaker part might fold if we raise and we probably get jammed on by his monsters and some draws.


@complex, 53% AFQ is rather aggressive, but again sample size is small.

My 3bet at this table was rather high(dont remeber exactly probably 15-20%) but I dont usualy 3bet alot UTG+1vsUTG
 
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