$25 NLHE 6-max: Line Check

$25 NL HE 6-max: Line Check

SB is Unknown

Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $29.07 (116.3 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $28.80 (115.2 bb)
Hero (MP): $25 (100 bb)
CO: $31.92 (127.7 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP with A:club: J:heart:
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($2.25) 7:club: J:diamond: T:club: (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4

Turn: ($12.25) 2:heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, SB raises to $18, Hero ??? (Hero has $10 behind)

You raised the flop to get it in, so ship it son. If you didn't want to stack TPTK, against this opponent then call the flop.

I kinda think the flop is sorta BA/WB as well, and I'd lean towards just calling the half-pot lead, and then I'd look to raise the turn/shove riv.

c9h13no3 said:

You raised the flop to get it in, so ship it son. If you didn't want to stack TPTK, against this opponent then call the flop.

I kinda think the flop is sorta BA/WB as well, and I'd lean towards just calling the half-pot lead, and then I'd look to raise the turn/shove riv.

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Agreed. As played, you sorta have to get it in now. Though I'd much rather flat the flop and wait until equities change on later streets before committing.

Its an interesting line uze have and would certainly be better for equity.

However the reason I have committed is because draws are so prevalent, my fear of using the river to ship it is that I won't get a call from the draws.
The aim of my line is to ship to get as much money in on the turn with as little behind so they make a terrible call with bad implied odds.
Then with a tiny amount left on the river if they've a pair in their draw at all they'd have to call $10 into a $40 pot.
I also think most 25NL opponents will call my raise with Jx.


Do you see a potential flaw in this line?
(other than the current situation which is fairly rare that someone would slowplay on this board)

Deco said:

However the reason I have committed is because draws are so prevalent

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there are a lot of draws indeed, although not as many as you might think as you have the Ac which removes all the ace-rag flush draws. But there's also quite a bit of monsters - straights, sets and JT for 2 pairs.

The key is that on the flop, you don't have such a huge equity against draws. you're ahead, but only barely, so you don't gain that much money by raising them. And you don't loose that much by giving a free card away. On the other hand, you lose a lot against the monsters.

BelgoSuisse said:

there are a lot of draws indeed, although not as many as you might think as you have the Ac which removes all the ace-rag flush draws. But there's also quite a bit of monsters - straights, sets and JT for 2 pairs.

The key is that on the flop, you don't have such a huge equity against draws. you're ahead, but only barely, so you don't gain that much money by raising them. And you don't loose that much by giving a free card away. On the other hand, you lose a lot against the monsters.

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Without the made straight, us holding the A of clubs or a read that our opponents a station would you take my line or reckon its a line I should rule out all together?

He shows up with KK btw

Deco said:

Without the made straight, us holding the A of clubs or a read that our opponents a station would you take my line or reckon its a line I should rule out all together?

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At 25nl, you should not try to play for stacks with TPTK. Sometimes you'll have to because villain has a ton of draws - including weak ones - in his range and you know he plays them aggressively on turn too, but you should not be the one trying to get it in.

BelgoSuisse said:

At 25nl, you should not try to play for stacks with TPTK. Sometimes you'll have to because villain has a ton of draws - including weak ones - in his range and you know he plays them aggressively on turn too, but you should not be the one trying to get it in.

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I do not endorse this message, and I think tons of fish will stack worse.

BelgoSuisse said:

At 25nl, you should not try to play for stacks with TPTK.

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My standard line is to get it in against most 25NL players unless they've proven themselves tight.

Oh and congratulations on beating the Red Scourge tonight