$25 NLHE 6-max: KQ in position against a maniac

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PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $49.10
UTG: $25.00
MP: $31.68
CO: $77.65
Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $25.50

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has K:club: Q:diamond:

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, fold, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.85, 2 players) 5:heart: 9:club: 7:diamond:
CO checks, Hero bets $3.00, CO calls $3.00

Turn: ($10.85, 2 players) A:heart:
CO checks, Hero????

ok so this guy is a 71/34/65afq. Preflop I 3bet for value and since I have position. Not sure if I should've just called in position and played accordingly. So the flop I just threw out a standard cbet, he calls. The turn is an ace. This obviously hits my range but villain is probably not really thinking about that. This is a pretty good barrel card for me against normal opponents but should I do it here?
 
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how has this guy been reacting to postflop aggression?
 
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in the 46 hands i have on him his fold to cbet% was 57 and he never had raised a cbet so far.
 
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To me there are a limited number of things that make sense here. 9's 10's Aces or possibly A9 suited. I would lean pretty heavily toward 9's with aces as a close second. Jacks up to kings he's reraising pre probably. With 9's he may want to chicken call with a fold in mind depending on the flop texture. Aces he may feel comfortable flatting pre cause he is almost always still ahead. These two hands also make sense post. 10's and up he is probably pushing the action with an overpair to push you out or use a blocker bet for pot control. A set of 9's or a pair of aces and he gets paid off by letting you drive the action. He doesn't want pot control but a bet looks really strong into the preflop 3 better. I just think you are beat here and I would check behind. I'm done with the hand unless a k or q hits the river. He is betting the river but it will be a value bet and you have enough equity, especially with the extra info you will get, to call. IF the river is a k or q. Also, if you bet here and he calls he is still betting the river and even though it is still a value bet it is a much larger bet.

Either that or it is a set up for a sick bluff that you can't call if you miss the river. Just check behind and reluctantly call if you hit. especially since he folds almost 60% of the time to a cbet you almost have to be beat here IMHO.
 
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Honestly I don't like the cbet on that flop against this opponent who likely has a ton of pair + straight draw type hands that he's not folding.

As played if you do bet again on the turn I think you have to be willing to bet again on most rivers. He's unlikely to fold any of the pair + draw type hands to a double barrel because now he thinks he'll get paid off big if he catches his gutter/2nd pair or whatever if you do have an ace.

Since I don't think you really want to be bloating the pot like that with K high I would just check behind and hope to spike a pair on the river.
 
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I agree with you. Don't cbet the flop. Really though, the raise pre was a bigger mistake imo. Just call there and if he checks on the flop then sure, take a stab. It's kindof a weak line but your positional edge decreases proportionally to the size of the pot. The bigger the pot the less likely he folds.

In my previous post I may have been giving this guy too much credit. I was thinking of the absolute min that a reasonable player will show up with there. Also, I'm sorry it posted twice. Phone told me it didn't post. Lying phone.
 
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3betting pf is %100 standard. We crush his range, we have position, and we clearly have a skill advantage over him. All that = profit.

'The bigger the pot the less likely he folds'...that's good for us. We have a clear equity edge pf. Do you 3bet AK/AQ preflop? What's the difference?

I agree with giving up flop. We can't really fold out better very often (maybe AT-AQ, but even that peels kinda often given villain's bad), and we clearly don't get called by worse very often either (maybe JT?). We can't really buy out any equity from worse hands either like QJ/JT which float flop somewhat often.

Just give up flop. Maybe if we have KQs for a backdoor or if the board were slightly dryer we could, but this is pretty horrendous texture for us to bet imo.
 
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Sorry, you're right. I was using my ranges for him based on his flop call. I wouldn't have had him on such a limited range without his pre call of our 3bet. Good catch. Never claimed to be good at this game :)
 
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Thanks for the input guys. I did in fact bet the turn hoping that by some small chance he would give me credit for an ace but instead he c/r me And I threw my hand away.
 
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