$25 NLHE 6-max: Flopped set on WET board

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 27/17/37

What do we do on the turn? No real reads on CO, his stats are over 117 hands and only other relevant stat is fold to flop cbet is 33% (3/9)

888 Poker - $0.30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $37.10 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
SB: $31.31 (VPIP: 24.56, PFR: 19.30, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
BB: $9.28 (VPIP: 55.17, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
Hero (UTG): $30.00
MP: $32.25 (VPIP: 22.08, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 79)
CO: $41.75 (VPIP: 27.97, PFR: 16.95, 3Bet Preflop: 3.92, Hands: 120)

SB posts SB $0.15, BB posts BB $0.30

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.45) Hero has 9:diamond: 9:club:

Hero raises to $0.90, fold, CO calls $0.90, BTN calls $0.90, fold, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.75, 4 players) T:heart: J:heart: 9:heart:
BB checks, Hero bets $3.00, CO calls $3.00, fold, BB calls $3.00

Turn: ($12.75, 3 players) 7:diamond:
BB checks, Hero ?,
 
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Depending on action, I check/call turn if CO doesn't bet too big. We still have odds to draw to a full house and if we do get there, we most certainly will be getting paid off by flushes/straights.

If CO goes something like 6$-8$, I think we can profitably c/c especially if we add in BB's remaining 6$...We would be calling 8$ to win 26$ + implied odds...I think it's definitely a c/c unless villain bombs the turn huge imo
 
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I would have plaid slower on flop. c/c flop. Barrel turn, fold to raise. c/f river If it gets any worse.
 
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Check/fold to any bet OTT that isn't giving you pot odds/implied odds to boat up.

Lol that flop is nasty.
 
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I think we can b/f OTT, sth like $8. Surely, 8x is in their range but so are many other hands with FDs, TP etc so I think there's still value on turn.
 
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I think we can b/f OTT, sth like $8. Surely, 8x is in their range but so are many other hands with FDs, TP etc so I think there's still value on turn.

Nooooo you can't bet the turn here, 4 to a straight on board and flush possibility as well. Bet/folding turn only gets better hands to call and there are so many made hands that either call or raise rather than a draw that check calling or folding are miles better. Your essentially turning your hand into a bluff. No one in their right mind is calling any bet with TP here either.
 
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With two callers and that sick flop im playing the hand v. cautiously, trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible. Bet smaller on flop .5 pot. C/C turn.
 
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Betting flop hard is right. We aren't usually outflopped here. Most times the board looks even scarier to them, and they will be looking for a fold. On the other hand they probably aren't ever folding their draws, so get value.
Agreed with c/c turn for reasons mentioned.
 
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Betting flop hard is right. We aren't usually outflopped here. Most times the board looks even scarier to them, and they will be looking for a fold. On the other hand they probably aren't ever folding their draws, so get value.
Agreed with c/c turn for reasons mentioned.
Although if we bet big and get raised we have to call, any further action post flop will commit us to the hand so IMO less variance route is to control the pot size , therefore we can see the turn and river .
We could already be crushed so seeing another 2 cards cheap is our goal. If we bet big on the flop chances are that one of our opponents has a strong draw and is calling all day long and then we build the pot for them if they hit and if they don't hit we give them a free card by C/C.

If they are looking for a fold , then we don't want them to fold and bet smaller to keep them in. Bet for value but control the pot size.
 
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Although if we bet big and get raised we have to call, any further action post flop will commit us to the hand so IMO less variance route is to control the pot size , therefore we can see the turn and river .
We could already be crushed so seeing another 2 cards cheap is our goal. If we bet big on the flop chances are that one of our opponents has a strong draw and is calling all day long and then we build the pot for them if they hit and if they don't hit we give them a free card by C/C.

If they are looking for a fold , then we don't want them to fold and bet smaller to keep them in. Bet for value but control the pot size.

Why would we have to call if raised? We are always beat here when raised at these stakes.
 
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Why would we have to call if raised? We are always beat here when raised at these stakes.
Well we wouldn't have too , it would depend on villains sizing actually.
Not always beat here , there are a lot of hands in villains range that will raise here that we beat, and if we are beat we still have a decent amount of equity to call profitably.
 
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